Changing ascension from moth to heart.

[Elignor]

Started today my first game as a dancer (after getting couple of other victories), and can't figure out how to choose my ascension path. Some posts on various forums suggest that dancer has two specific ways of ascension, tied to Moth and Heart aspects, but I can't understand how to switch between them, and how to notice the difference.
I tried to research poem, given at the beginning of the game, with health, performed dances at the club with health and vitality only, my "garments" card was red of colour, but desire card is still grey. Did I make some kind of mistake, or it souldn't indicate my chosen ascension at all ?
By the way, I have no problmes with spoilers, so would appreciate direct answers.

[Maina]

If you dance at the club with Moth aspect, you follow the Moth path. If you do it with Heart aspect, then you follow the Heart path.

You can switch at any time, and you'll get the ascension that you have the most marks for (with a secret ascension for balancing them).

[Elignor]

Thank you very much. Very useful and clear answer. Just some more questions, if you don't mind:
Is the amount of my marks noted on my ascension card, like in other paths ? Sould it be something like: "heart 2, moth 3", written on my card, or is this information given somehow differently.
And, if I combine heart and moth in one dance, will I just get the mark for the prevailing amount of aspect in that dance ?

[Maina]

There is an Aspect for each path, yes. It shows up on the Ascension card. I believe they are Aspect: New Form and Aspect: Old Form.

If you mix the two in one dance, it will just pick one of the recipes that qualifies, like it does with other things (particularly rituals). The priority with which it picks a recipe is beyond me; I typicaly just put in the aspect I need. There's no reason to mix them in the same dance; it just makes it harder to get enough of what you need.

[Elignor]

Thanks again. Strange, but while getting red cards for improvement, I somehow have advanced only to "New Form 2". Well, I'll keep trying to go on with this playstyle.

[JungleJollies[]]

Originally posted by Maina:

If you dance at the club with Moth aspect, you follow the Moth path. If you do it with Heart aspect, then you follow the Heart path.

You can switch at any time, and you'll get the ascension that you have the most marks for (with a secret ascension for balancing them).

I'm chasing this secret ending that you spoke of. I'm about to hit 3/3 with moth/heart dances... however, the only place left to explore is port noon. Can I get the secret ending with 3/4 or 4/3, or is there something else to it?

P.S. Six scars really limits the margins for error.

[Maina]

My understanding is you need to have 3/3 when you do the final dance. The final dance can be either.

[JungleJollies[]]

Originally posted by Maina:

My understanding is you need to have 3/3 when you do the final dance. The final dance can be either.

A simple followup for posterity's sake. I was mistaken; though there are only 7 sending locations, there is a dance undertaken after the seventh allowing for a perfect 4/4. As moth influence is hard to come by, I ended up turning to art for the last of it... it felt like a fitting conclusion.

[LostAngel1000]

So wait... I am curious... How does one Actuallty switch I mean I get the idea of using Moth or Heart Aspect I guess but... Like how much does it cost to switch if one say starts off as Heart, suddenly gets a lot more Moth lore and items then heart?

[JungleJollies[]]

Originally posted by LostAngel1000:

So wait... I am curious... How does one Actuallty switch I mean I get the idea of using Moth or Heart Aspect I guess but... Like how much does it cost to switch if one say starts off as Heart, suddenly gets a lot more Moth lore and items then heart?

So, after the 8 dances there's a check. Each successful dance increments either moth or heart values. At the end, if you have 5+ of either, you get the ending text associated with that aspect; if you finish with 4/4, you get something different.

The cost of switching only really means something in relation to scars (each holds 4 influence but eats an attribute), and in the power of the influences that you will be required to utilize in order to meet the requirements of the dances (the last of which requires 17 influence).

Does that make sense?

[Maina]

Originally posted by LostAngel1000:

So wait... I am curious... How does one Actuallty switch I mean I get the idea of using Moth or Heart Aspect I guess but... Like how much does it cost to switch if one say starts off as Heart, suddenly gets a lot more Moth lore and items then heart?

While Jungle answered your question, I feel I should point out an error:

You can't use Moth lore and items for a Moth ascension. Dances only take stats, scars, and Influence.

If you suddenly get an influx of Moth lore and items, it makes absolutely no difference to your Ascension. You shouldn't base your switch on how much Lore or Tools or Ingredients you have.

If you mean you want to switch Cult, you can't. You can never switch Cult. But Cult has absolutely nothing to do with what Ascension you are doing.