"Spoiler warning." Plot holes in the Darksiders series.

[Pixel_Ninja]

Should say before I start, that I love the Darksiders series, and are a big fan of it. :) But it's still fun to discuss the story, and the occasional plot holes it has. ;P

I'm sure there are many, but between Darksiders Genesis, and Darksiders II, I find a rather big plot hole.

In order for Lucifer to power The Animus, he needs the souls of these "Lesser Demon Lords. And a Fallen Angel." :P
How come then, that Belial is getting his ass kicked in Darksiders 2 by Death, when Lucifer clearly must have killed him let's just say about 3000 years earlier, in order to obtain his rotten soul!
Can of course argue that a Demon can somewhat be resurrected, but then who would resurrect Belial later on, and then what's even the point of killing Them, if They can just come back later.

Hope many we'll know later on. Or and if Vigil Games, THQ and or Airship Syndicate, had just forgotten completely that part, when They included Belial in the game. ^^
But could still be cool, if They fixed it, with a free DLC. A gamer can dream!

Let me know if you guys and girls, has found any other plot holes in the series.

[Donte]

we didnt really see belial dead. and its never stated that animus need all these lesser demon lords and a fallen angel, maybe just require a certainn amount. so we can argue the animus that created didnt have belial soul core. but yeah who know

[RCMidas]

Belial was visibly left alive and told by Lucifer that he was going to be tormented "forever". Well, plans changed clearly since he was reinstated as a Lord of Hell many thousands of years later, but apparently his soul was not necessary to power the Animus. It would have been useful, sure, but not vital - perhaps even after having "drunk the waters of Eden" Belial was too pitiful a demon to be worth harvesting.

Note however, that both angels and demons are explicitly stated to be resurrected time and again to continue the endless war against each other - the Lord of Hollows in Darksiders 3 makes a point of showing that he can actually prevent this resurrection from taking place if the angel or demon in question requests it - and that the Horsemen are similarly able to be resurrected if an entity such as the Charred Council wishes. War, indeed, dies twice just in his own game; and Death in his.

The question then becomes: if Belial was killed by Lucifer, why would he be resurrected? Well, he presumably would not be, since he wasn't worth the effort to do so. As for why is it worth killing them, be they angel or demon? To at least delay them for a time whilst they are brought back. To lower them in worth to their fellows, especially among demonkind, who will see a repeated series of deaths as a sign of incompetence and weakness.

[Pixel_Ninja]

That's actually one big plot hole, this whole resurrection.
Without real death, there is just no tension, making death a complete joke.
I remember now with the Lord of Hollows, that he can prevent it all. But if just resurrection simple soldiers, is as easy as to picking your nose, then it's pretty much all meaningless. :P
This person dies, comes back, this Angel dies, comes back, this Demon dies, comes back...

And in Darksiders II, we learn every Soul ends up in The Well of Souls, till it eventually passes onto The City of the Dead, and gets ready for rebirth.
I just feel it's a subject, They need to do more with, in order to clear it all up. ^^
And we do know a price must be paid. Death had the choice of resurrecting The Nephilim, or use Their souls, to save Humanity.

I do agree, that we don't really know, how many souls Lucifer needed to power The Animus, but it was kind a hinted, that he needed them all. But I'll pay it, maybe he just needed one soul, and each new one added, The Animus got more and more powerful, till most of Humanity was "Infected."

[RCMidas]

I don't see that as a plot hole. Souls get recycled. Those of the primordial immortals get recycled as themselves more often than not, or at least as beings of a similar kind (perhaps a lower-ranked type of angel or demon). Certain entities can prevent this cycle, such as the Lord of Hollows and the Charred Council.

Others may alter how a soul comes back, such as Vulgrim, who in his feeding on souls *probably* consumes those aspects which grant sentience and memory. Greater demons and angels who have their former identities stripped away like this may end up being reborn as lower mortal creatures.

Note that the Well of Souls itself has some power over the resurrection and nature of the souls it holds. It needed to consume the essence of the Nephilim, thereby preventing them from being brought back - at least AS Nephilim - in order to guarantee the resurrection of the humans AS humans, as they had been before the Apocalypse.

[Donte]

Originally posted by Pixel_Ninja:

That's actually one big plot hole, this whole resurrection.
Without real death, there is just no tension, making death a complete joke.
I remember now with the Lord of Hollows, that he can prevent it all. But if just resurrection simple soldiers, is as easy as to picking your nose, then it's pretty much all meaningless. :P
This person dies, comes back, this Angel dies, comes back, this Demon dies, comes back...

And in Darksiders II, we learn every Soul ends up in The Well of Souls, till it eventually passes onto The City of the Dead, and gets ready for rebirth.
I just feel it's a subject, They need to do more with, in order to clear it all up. ^^
And we do know a price must be paid. Death had the choice of resurrecting The Nephilim, or use Their souls, to save Humanity.

I do agree, that we don't really know, how many souls Lucifer needed to power The Animus, but it was kind a hinted, that he needed them all. But I'll pay it, maybe he just needed one soul, and each new one added, The Animus got more and more powerful, till most of Humanity was "Infected."

well, the stronger entity might have the price or power to ressurect other being, such as horsemen ressurected by the broken seal power. the difference between this and the thing lord of hollow did is the angel and demon that hollowed most probrably just a mere soldier, thus the are not worth ressurecting. so insted their soul go through the normal rebirth cycle as shown in death journey in ds2. i think its quite clear althought i might miss something
actually i have disscussion about human rebirth theory here
https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/3963662301882871941/
if you are interested