Do you think we will encounter Lucifer in Darksiders 4 or we have to wait for Darksiders 5?

[Purpleetea]

I am asking myself this question to many times. After beating this game I just want to kill him. No but seriously its been way to long. I hope gunfire games give us glimps at leats in darksiders 4 for the mini fight against him and leave it for Darksiders 5 him for the last boss. Co op 2-3 players mayhem

[RCMidas]

Depends on whether or not DS4 is the last of the games - Genesis actually serves really well as an introduction to Strife, meaning that a regular entry in the series is not necessary (would be nice, but not NECESSARY) for him.

If DS4 is the last game, then yeah, I think we'll finally get to meet him. And probably discover that our victory will only replace him with Samael...to say nothing of whatever Vulgrim is going to do with all the ludicrous number of souls and artifacts we've been feeding him all this time. You can't tell me he's the ONLY demon who is immune to the lure of ambition and power.

[Scantlin]

It would be more epic if we have a solo game of each horseman. But Genesis is probably what we will get for Strife, I guess. Even if it’s a prequel, the character is already introduced for us.
I would love to have a solo game for him right where Darksiders 3 ended, with Strife leading the way ‘till War call all his brothers to fight beside him, like we saw in Darksiders.
Then, FINALLY, we would have the chance to go after Lucifer with all Horsemen assembled.
THAT would be a wonderful dream come true.

[Manostion]

While I agree with both RCMidas and Mister that Genesis introduces the character decently enough, I do see a lot of story potential for a Strife solo game set after Darksiders III and before Darksiders II. There are a lot of open questions about the series and at least one of them deals with the gap between those games (I was also very happy to read that I'm not the only one wondering about Vulgrim's end game). Here's a link to a previous comment I made:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/1606022547906837320/#c1606022547928830584

[Purpleetea]

Originally posted by Mister:

It would be more epic if we have a solo game of each horseman. But Genesis is probably what we will get for Strife, I guess. Even if it’s a prequel, the character is already introduced for us.
I would love to have a solo game for him right where Darksiders 3 ended, with Strife leading the way ‘till War call all his brothers to fight beside him, like we saw in Darksiders.
Then, FINALLY, we would have the chance to go after Lucifer with all Horsemen assembled.
THAT would be a wonderful dream come true.

That would be ideal. Smartest move would be make Strife solo game like other three was.

[Purpleetea]

Originally posted by Manostion:

While I agree with both RCMidas and Mister that Genesis introduces the character decently enough, I do see a lot of story potential for a Strife solo game set after Darksiders III and before Darksiders II. There are a lot of open questions about the series and at least one of them deals with the gap between those games (I was also very happy to read that I'm not the only one wondering about Vulgrim's end game). Here's a link to a previous comment I made:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/1606022547906837320/#c1606022547928830584

Dude I would love to have another Absalom vs Death deathmatch. In darksiders 2 it was best fight for me. One of the best fights I had in video game history. It was and still is brutal and heavy.

[Scantlin]

Originally posted by Purpleetea:

Originally posted by Mister:

It would be more epic if we have a solo game of each horseman. But Genesis is probably what we will get for Strife, I guess. Even if it’s a prequel, the character is already introduced for us.
I would love to have a solo game for him right where Darksiders 3 ended, with Strife leading the way ‘till War call all his brothers to fight beside him, like we saw in Darksiders.
Then, FINALLY, we would have the chance to go after Lucifer with all Horsemen assembled.
THAT would be a wonderful dream come true.

That would be ideal. Smartest move would be make Strife solo game like other three was.

I think it will all depends on the selling and reception of Genesis. I love the brotherhood between War and Strife, he's freaking funny. It would be lovely to play him on a 3rd person game like the previously 3 games, exploring more of his moves, weapons and gameplay. They could really try another gameplay type for him, since in every game, including Genesis, it's different. Maybe could be like DMC, I don't know, but I really would appreciate it a solo game for him before the final chapter.
Plus, on a possible 6th game, you should play with every horseman separately, one campaign for each of them, maybe some missions where you can switch to another one or something like that. And then we could go after Lucifer.
I know, that's a lot to ask, but... who knows?

[Purpleetea]

Originally posted by Mister:

Originally posted by Purpleetea:

That would be ideal. Smartest move would be make Strife solo game like other three was.

I think it will all depends on the selling and reception of Genesis. I love the brotherhood between War and Strife, he's freaking funny. It would be lovely to play him on a 3rd person game like the previously 3 games, exploring more of his moves, weapons and gameplay. They could really try another gameplay type for him, since in every game, including Genesis, it's different. Maybe could be like DMC, I don't know, but I really would appreciate it a solo game for him before the final chapter.
Plus, on a possible 6th game, you should play with every horseman separately, one campaign for each of them, maybe some missions where you can switch to another one or something like that. And then we could go after Lucifer.
I know, that's a lot to ask, but... who knows?

He is not all the time makes jokes. There are dark stuff also if you noticed ;) I would love him sometimes to be dark.

[Scantlin]

Originally posted by Purpleetea:

Originally posted by Mister:

I think it will all depends on the selling and reception of Genesis. I love the brotherhood between War and Strife, he's freaking funny. It would be lovely to play him on a 3rd person game like the previously 3 games, exploring more of his moves, weapons and gameplay. They could really try another gameplay type for him, since in every game, including Genesis, it's different. Maybe could be like DMC, I don't know, but I really would appreciate it a solo game for him before the final chapter.
Plus, on a possible 6th game, you should play with every horseman separately, one campaign for each of them, maybe some missions where you can switch to another one or something like that. And then we could go after Lucifer.
I know, that's a lot to ask, but... who knows?

He is not all the time makes jokes. There are dark stuff also if you noticed ;) I would love him sometimes to be dark.

Indeed, he seems to be struggling with something he did it in the past, he mentioned that. I hope figure this out later. He's fun and serious at the same time, have a huge admiration for War and their relationship is awesome.

[Scantlin]

Originally posted by Manostion:

While I agree with both RCMidas and Mister that Genesis introduces the character decently enough, I do see a lot of story potential for a Strife solo game set after Darksiders III and before Darksiders II. There are a lot of open questions about the series and at least one of them deals with the gap between those games (I was also very happy to read that I'm not the only one wondering about Vulgrim's end game). Here's a link to a previous comment I made:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/1606022547906837320/#c1606022547928830584

I saw your post. Loved and I agreed with everything you wrote it.

[The Fabulous Slayer]

Originally posted by Manostion:

While I agree with both RCMidas and Mister that Genesis introduces the character decently enough, I do see a lot of story potential for a Strife solo game set after Darksiders III and before Darksiders II. There are a lot of open questions about the series and at least one of them deals with the gap between those games (I was also very happy to read that I'm not the only one wondering about Vulgrim's end game). Here's a link to a previous comment I made:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/1606022547906837320/#c1606022547928830584

Damn, dude, that's a huge post you wrote there.

I'm fairly certain that DS4 is happening with only Strife and it being TPS. Genesis is not really an introduction, it treats Strife just like it treats War - an equal character who already exists and we kinda accept it, while mainline games have character arcs. I mean we play him for the first time, but he still don't really know him by the time all 4 horsemen arrive on Earth in the end of DS1. They all obviously changed over time, and in DS 3 we see Strife as someone who is helping humans, not an assassin who he used to be by his own words, there's clearly a story there.

As for Vulgrim, I don't know, I don't think he has endgame, I think he just enjoys owning stuff others can't have, including souls, he has an entire void for himself. But who knows, maybe there is some sinister plan there, I would be happy if he gets more screen time either way, he is by far my favorite figurine and character out of all 5 :D

Also after all you wrote I realized I definitely need to refresh the lore in my memory. You also mentioned there are not only games, I definitely need more info on that.

[Purpleetea]

Originally posted by The Joker:

Originally posted by Manostion:

While I agree with both RCMidas and Mister that Genesis introduces the character decently enough, I do see a lot of story potential for a Strife solo game set after Darksiders III and before Darksiders II. There are a lot of open questions about the series and at least one of them deals with the gap between those games (I was also very happy to read that I'm not the only one wondering about Vulgrim's end game). Here's a link to a previous comment I made:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/710920/discussions/0/1606022547906837320/#c1606022547928830584

Damn, dude, that's a huge post you wrote there.

I'm fairly certain that DS4 is happening with only Strife and it being TPS. Genesis is not really an introduction, it treats Strife just like it treats War - an equal character who already exists and we kinda accept it, while mainline games have character arcs. I mean we play him for the first time, but he still don't really know him by the time all 4 horsemen arrive on Earth in the end of DS1. They all obviously changed over time, and in DS 3 we see Strife as someone who is helping humans, not an assassin who he used to be by his own words, there's clearly a story there.

As for Vulgrim, I don't know, I don't think he has endgame, I think he just enjoys owning stuff others can't have, including souls, he has an entire void for himself. But who knows, maybe there is some sinister plan there, I would be happy if he gets more screen time either way, he is by far my favorite figurine and character out of all 5 :D

Strife: "He is that flying corpse" lol love Strife every time. He caled Samuel Samy as well

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

Last boss of DS5, all horsemen gather up to kick his demon ass. And everybody lives happily forever after... until somebody screws up the balance again.

[The Fabulous Slayer]

Originally posted by Purpleetea:

Originally posted by The Joker:

Damn, dude, that's a huge post you wrote there.

I'm fairly certain that DS4 is happening with only Strife and it being TPS. Genesis is not really an introduction, it treats Strife just like it treats War - an equal character who already exists and we kinda accept it, while mainline games have character arcs. I mean we play him for the first time, but he still don't really know him by the time all 4 horsemen arrive on Earth in the end of DS1. They all obviously changed over time, and in DS 3 we see Strife as someone who is helping humans, not an assassin who he used to be by his own words, there's clearly a story there.

As for Vulgrim, I don't know, I don't think he has endgame, I think he just enjoys owning stuff others can't have, including souls, he has an entire void for himself. But who knows, maybe there is some sinister plan there, I would be happy if he gets more screen time either way, he is by far my favorite figurine and character out of all 5 :D

Strife: "He is that flying corpse" lol love Strife every time. He caled Samuel Samy as well

Yeah, Strife is definitely fun.

[Scantlin]

Originally posted by Purpleetea:

Originally posted by The Joker:

Damn, dude, that's a huge post you wrote there.

I'm fairly certain that DS4 is happening with only Strife and it being TPS. Genesis is not really an introduction, it treats Strife just like it treats War - an equal character who already exists and we kinda accept it, while mainline games have character arcs. I mean we play him for the first time, but he still don't really know him by the time all 4 horsemen arrive on Earth in the end of DS1. They all obviously changed over time, and in DS 3 we see Strife as someone who is helping humans, not an assassin who he used to be by his own words, there's clearly a story there.

As for Vulgrim, I don't know, I don't think he has endgame, I think he just enjoys owning stuff others can't have, including souls, he has an entire void for himself. But who knows, maybe there is some sinister plan there, I would be happy if he gets more screen time either way, he is by far my favorite figurine and character out of all 5 :D

Strife: "He is that flying corpse" lol love Strife every time. He caled Samuel Samy as well

Just remembered me like Dean calls Sam in Supernatural, lmao.

[Manostion]

Originally posted by The Joker:

Damn, dude, that's a huge post you wrote there.

Yeah, I tend to take it a bit far at times... I also found out the hard way that YouTube comments have a 10,000 character limit and I also discovered the limit for Steam reviews with my Bloody Spell review... 😅

Originally posted by The Joker:

I'm fairly certain that DS4 is happening with only Strife and it being TPS. Genesis is not really an introduction, it treats Strife just like it treats War - an equal character who already exists and we kinda accept it, while mainline games have character arcs. I mean we play him for the first time, but he still don't really know him by the time all 4 horsemen arrive on Earth in the end of DS1. They all obviously changed over time, and in DS 3 we see Strife as someone who is helping humans, not an assassin who he used to be by his own words, there's clearly a story there.

I agree wholeheartedly and I sure hope you're right. I don't expect them to jump right to the end, though. Not after what they have been through to keep the franchise alive.

Originally posted by The Joker:

As for Vulgrim, I don't know, I don't think he has endgame, I think he just enjoys owning stuff others can't have, including souls, he has an entire void for himself. But who knows, maybe there is some sinister plan there, I would be happy if he gets more screen time either way, he is by far my favorite figurine and character out of all 5 :D

Vulgrim is definitely a charismatic and enigmatic character and his voice acting does help. I loved his hums and his mumbling while you were browsing his store in the first game.

Originally posted by The Joker:

Also after all you wrote I realized I definitely need to refresh the lore in my memory. You also mentioned there are not only games, I definitely need more info on that.

As you probably know there's a short Comic/Graphic Novel that came with the first game. It shows how War loses his temper after killing so many of his kind in Eden and has to be restrained by all of his brethren, stabbing Death and losing his arm. Then it goes on to show how Abbadon tries to rally the Angels against the Demons but is shut down because of the Pact. It shows him meeting up with Azrael and Ulthane much to Uriel's worries. Lastly it shows how the first game's Watcher sees his sister die at the Council's hand for failing them. It ends with War arriving on Earth and the Watcher observing his arrival. It's nothing but a prequel to the first game really.

Then there's the Darksiders II comic Death's Door that details how the Horsemen chose their steeds and then shows Death accepting a job from Abbadon. For said job he seeks out Vulgrim to acquire new weaponry since the task isn't sanctioned by the Council (or something like that). He agrees to fetching a Hydra's tongue for Vulgrim and delivers the whole head instead as payment for his Dual Scythes. It also shows an ancient cult on Earth who are somehow related to the Crossblade from the first game, if I remember correctly... 🤔

Finally there's a novel by Ari Marmell called The Abomination vault. It takes place some time after Genesis (if I'm not mistaken) and tells of the Grand Abominations, ancient living weapons crafted by one of the oldest races in the universe, the Ravaiim. The Ravaiim were the first race to actually create societies, long before the Makers did. They made weapons, tools and even buildings by incorporating parts of their own bodies and will in them and they were the first race to fall prey to the Nephilim's unholy crusade. The weapons the Nephilim crafted out of their bodies are full of hatred and bloodlust due to the lingering presence of the Ravaiim. In the novel a small group of individuals, one female Maker obsessed with Lilith and an enigmatic stranger, try to open the Abomination Vault, the place where the Nephilim had hidden the weapons, to obliterate the Council and overthrow the leaders of both Heaven and Hell with them. Death and War are tasked with stopping them, so, much like Genesis, it details the relationship of two of the Horsemen and why Death is willing to do everything for his younger brother. It also introduces Panoptos, the original Watcher from whom the others were created and... oh yeah, the relationships between Death, Despair, Dust and the Crowfather on the one hand and War, Ruin and Uriel on the other. That's all I remember for now but there's probably more... I believe it also showed a bit of Strife's nonchalant attitude way back in the day already.

I do have to reread Death's Door and the Abomination Vault, so I might have mixed some things up here or there... so take it with a grain of salt.