Alright, I'll make the obligatory post..

[TwinShadow]

Yes, this is the obligatory post that pops up on every single anime novel on Steam. The dreaded 18+ discussion...

But I'll be sensible. Promise.

I happen to own the Tayutama anime and generally I love the art style for the series. After a little light digging on VNDB.org, it wasn't hard to figure out that the first and second novels are both originally 18+ novels. No real surprise really. And with the English version on Steam of course, All Ages.

So here's my question. Hikari Field, are y'all planning on providing a sort of patch perhaps via other means (doesn't have to be an official link to said thing, I know Valve hates anime boobs to some degree) for free or via paid in similar fashion like DenpaSoft and the like? I'm just curious since I always prefer original, uncut content as opposed to content being cut from a release.

[Malamasala]

Patch is essential. (And I have a faint memory that the chinese version had one? Not 100% sure though)

[TwinShadow]

You are correct, the Chinese variant did have a patch.

[HIKARI FIELD]

https://twitter.com/hikari_field/status/935467415667851264
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[TwinShadow]

Awesome! That answers my question. You'll get a guaranteed buy from me.

[HIKARI FIELD]

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Originally posted by Kitsu 【天狐】:

Awesome! That answers my question. You'll get a guaranteed buy from me.

[Allochka]

At least we will have 18+ patch...
Censored or uncensored - that doesn'r matter then... Because, for example, Sky Full of Stars (Miagete Goran) by MoeNovel only all ages, and that's totally awful, when you release eroge game without ero content...
Nice.
Anyway, thanks for that.

[♡NeKO PriNCeSS♡]

Lads will be lads..but I cant wait for the game friend recommands highly

[H-Games Guru]

Originally posted by HIKARI FIELD:

https://twitter.com/hikari_field/status/935467415667851264
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With or without mosaic?

[TwinShadow]

I'm 99% positive it'll have mosaic; just something we'll have to deal with for the time being.

[H-Games Guru]

Why should we have to? It's essential to persuade the publishers and developers about it because otherwise they would go the path of least resistance wich would be the inferior mosaic release. There are only two reasons I could accept depending on the publisher and developer.
1. The original art no longer exists (unlikely)
2. The japanese company is strictly against it because of personal reasons and not why nobody told them they can publish mosaic free in the west without problems. (likelier then the first one)

[TwinShadow]

Its a double edge sword. If people voted with their wallets and never bought another visual novel because of the mosaics, companies would likely stop licensing them out because they'd see there's no market for them. In other words, we'd never see another visual novel because more than half of fan translations either never finish, or are sometimes left in limbo without updates.

The other problem are the Japanese laws which shouldn't affect the US market, but it does. If the JP master source is censored, then that's what we're going to get too.

I said this somewhere else on another forum, but face it, mosaics are here to stay for the time being until laws change. Most artists these days don't typically draw genitals anymore because its just going to end up censored anyway, so why put in the effort? Few will still do so though, but the trend I'm seeing is that it is becoming fewer unless they move everything to the US where such laws wouldn't affect them. Oh, but the US market on visual novels is still pretty niche as it is.

[H-Games Guru]

Originally posted by Kitsu 【天狐】:

Its a double edge sword. If people voted with their wallets and never bought another visual novel because of the mosaics, companies would likely stop licensing them out because they'd see there's no market for them. In other words, we'd never see another visual novel because more than half of fan translations either never finish, or are sometimes left in limbo without updates.

The market is large enough that even steam itself mentioned it on their presentations about greenlights success and its successor programm. Therefore only really dumb companies that pay no attention to their customers would still think there is no market in the west, if their VNs wouldn't be purchased.

Originally posted by Kitsu 【天狐】:

The other problem are the Japanese laws which shouldn't affect the US market, but it does. If the JP master source is censored, then that's what we're going to get too.

A point I mentioned as valid excuse. But you could lunch a kickstarter with a redrawing streachgoal that would be reached instantly.

Originally posted by Kitsu 【天狐】:

I said this somewhere else on another forum, but face it, mosaics are here to stay for the time being until laws change. Most artists these days don't typically draw genitals anymore because its just going to end up censored anyway, so why put in the effort? Few will still do so though, but the trend I'm seeing is that it is becoming fewer unless they move everything to the US where such laws wouldn't affect them. Oh, but the US market on visual novels is still pretty niche as it is.

Thats an intresting argument that I hear from time to time but nearly all H-content I find from jp has those bits drawn. Only some large mangas have them whited/blacked out and even then you can sometimes find the storys with only bars above those parts in doujinshis. So it's only be a minority of the artists.
Also we hopefully see the opposite happening in the near future. Frontwing is allready aware that the english market wants mosaic free releases and publishes their games mosaic free if possible. This game[vndb.org] is in production and has allready a english release planed therefore they might draw everthing perfect from the start.

[GreyHounD]

@HIKARI FIELD:
In short: TY!

[Petrothian]

*got it, buy the non steam verison directly from them :P