No OFFLINE mode, not interested

[Strelok]

So I was a bit bummed when the original Hawken shut down. When they shut down those servers they essentially took away our game. We had no saying whatsoever.

I've certainly learned my lesson and I very rarely purchase anything in "always online" games.

Because "always online" is just a glorified form of rental.

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

[Kunovega]

Origineel geplaatst door Strelok:

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

It's free to play

[Doktor Mandrake]

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

Origineel geplaatst door Strelok:

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

It's free to play

Yeah, with an option to spend money

[Outsider]

If they just shut it down in a year or two, all your free to play time spent will be evaporated.
Just like with the original.

[EVILE-VON-OVERKILLE]

Origineel geplaatst door Strelok:

So I was a bit bummed when the original Hawken shut down. When they shut down those servers they essentially took away our game. We had no saying whatsoever.

I've certainly learned my lesson and I very rarely purchase anything in "always online" games.

Because "always online" is just a glorified form of rental.

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

Good luck gaming in the future...This game cant run offline...The way its built is how most games are gonna be built and I get you came from an ERA perhaps when games were made to be OFFLINE and it was fine...But you gonna be pressed to play anything thats not online as gaming goes forward...Sure you might get some great Indie games here and there but its gonna get real thin for you.

[Gio]

We have always had "Always Online" games, have you not heard of WoW? Or even Maplestory?

[Outsider]

Origineel geplaatst door Gio:

We have always had "Always Online" games, have you not heard of WoW? Or even Maplestory?

Both garbage games. Why?

[Strelok]

Origineel geplaatst door EVILE-VON-OVERKILLE:

Origineel geplaatst door Strelok:

So I was a bit bummed when the original Hawken shut down. When they shut down those servers they essentially took away our game. We had no saying whatsoever.

I've certainly learned my lesson and I very rarely purchase anything in "always online" games.

Because "always online" is just a glorified form of rental.

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

Good luck gaming in the future...This game cant run offline...The way its built is how most games are gonna be built and I get you came from an ERA perhaps when games were made to be OFFLINE and it was fine...But you gonna be pressed to play anything thats not online as gaming goes forward...Sure you might get some great Indie games here and there but its gonna get real thin for you.

I'll be fine thanks. There are still plenty of single player AAA games that come out and work offline just fine. Even more indie games. And with the power of modern engines the gap between indie and AAA is getting smaller by the year.

Regardless, making a single player focused game "always online" in order to implement a microtrasaction based business model is a really crappy move.

Games wit single player components should have offline support. Alaways.

[SilverHawk]

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

Origineel geplaatst door Strelok:

No offline support, not a single cent spent. Simple as that.

It's free to play

There are lots of free to play OFFLINE games these days.

[Daikatan]

Origineel geplaatst door Outsider:

Origineel geplaatst door Gio:

We have always had "Always Online" games, have you not heard of WoW? Or even Maplestory?

Both garbage games. Why?

I agree, Meridian 59 and Ultima Online were better ;)

[guggelfunsus]

Origineel geplaatst door Gio:

We have always had "Always Online" games, have you not heard of WoW? Or even Maplestory?

Exceptions confirm the rule

Here is a quick list of F2P games that have been shut down, that are now unable to be played ever again. It lists 154 killed games and i'm sure thats not even all of them.
https://www.f2pg.com/category/terminated/

Imagine a book-burning, but all other copies of the books around the world magically burn down as well. THATS the problem with games-as-a-service

It's a nightmare for games archiving

No F2P game lives forever. Hawken was taken away from us because of the "reliant on central server"-model.
And sooner or later, it will be taken away again :(

[Daikatan]

Origineel geplaatst door guggelfunsus:

Exceptions confirm the rule

Here is a quick list of F2P games that have been shut down, that are now unable to be played ever again. It lists 154 killed games and i'm sure thats not even all of them.
https://www.f2pg.com/category/terminated/

Imagine a book-burning, but all other copies of the books around the world magically burn down as well. THATS the problem with games-as-a-service

It's a nightmare for games archiving

No F2P game lives forever. Hawken was taken away from us because of the "reliant on central server"-model.
And sooner or later, it will be taken away again :(

damn, miss me some S4 League and Dark Eden.

[Kunovega]

Origineel geplaatst door SilverHawk:

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

It's free to play

There are lots of free to play OFFLINE games these days.

What does that have to do with anything I said?

He's stating he won't spend any money ON A FREE GAME.

I don't care if it's online or not, the threat to "not spend money" on a game when it's free is beyond silly.

I guess you didn't understand that either.

[ExcessivelySalty]

Origineel geplaatst door Doktor Mandrake:

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

It's free to play

Yeah, with an option to spend money

How dare the devs put an option in the game for players to send money to them? The nerve of them. Let them buy groceries with steam follows.

[null]

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

Origineel geplaatst door SilverHawk:

There are lots of free to play OFFLINE games these days.

What does that have to do with anything I said?

He's stating he won't spend any money ON A FREE GAME.

I don't care if it's online or not, the threat to "not spend money" on a game when it's free is beyond silly.

I guess you didn't understand that either.

...its called "vote with your wallet"
imagine being such a simpleton that you think you are OBLIGATED to pay for something that is given to you for free, rather then paying because you enjoy it.
also, if the game is shut down, then the money you spend on it burns too, as you cant use anything you bought with it anymore.

[[xPIx] InFaMY]

Origineel geplaatst door Doktor Mandrake:

Origineel geplaatst door Kunovega:

It's free to play

Yeah, with an option to spend money

You answered your own gripe with your own words OPTION TO SPEND MONEY dude come on... Do better...