Island 5 overwhelming!

[jcode]

I came to Island 5 with 3 fully kitted knights and the archers the follow them.

Upgraded my walls to bronze (the top tier i had on island 4)....and after day 7!....they wreck the walls...not even a blood moon or anything. How am i suppose to do anything about that? DAY 7...overwhelmed!

Had a great start...and i thought with bronze walls i could even stand a blood moon....NOPE. A bunch of greeds are wearing masks. There is like a million of them.

I have the "wall statue" and the "archer statue"...activated.

Island 4 was a breeze...Island 5 is just brutal! Don´t know how i can beat it. It seems impossible.

[EDIT]
I can comfirm that if you die and start over....then going back to Island 5...there will be ALOT less greed.

The amount of greed is more of your total days in the game...so spending alot of time on other islands will make alot of greed on Island 5. This is very good game mechanics...i was afraid i hit a wall that i could not pass.
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[Xxanno]

I would suggest kamikaze attacks. Rush in and destroy all of the portals on the way to the mountain, rebuild several times, and then blow the whole thing up.

[jcode]

Originally posted by Xxanno:

I would suggest kamikaze attacks. Rush in and destroy all of the portals on the way to the mountain, rebuild several times, and then blow the whole thing up.

That is not a good strategy at all. There are like 5 or 6 portals to destroy...and knights return everythime they destroy a portal. I will have a blood moon every night. I can´t survive that on very few men. It´s impossible!

[Xxanno]

Kamikaze = suicide.

The point is to open the way to the mountain. When that is done can you focus all of your effort on next retries to rush in before it is too late.

[jcode]

Originally posted by Xxanno:

Kamikaze = suicide.

The point is to open the way to the mountain. When that is done can you focus all of your effort on next retries to rush in before it is too late.

Ok...i understand...well, was hoping for a deathless run....but that don´t seem possible at all.

[Xxanno]

Originally posted by jcode:

Originally posted by Xxanno:

Kamikaze = suicide.

The point is to open the way to the mountain. When that is done can you focus all of your effort on next retries to rush in before it is too late.

Ok...i understand...well, was hoping for a deathless run....but that don´t seem possible at all.

I know, but the game seems balanced around the retreat mechanic. It makes no loss runs almost impossible.

[jcode]

Originally posted by Xxanno:

Originally posted by jcode:

Ok...i understand...well, was hoping for a deathless run....but that don´t seem possible at all.

I know, but the game seems balanced around the retreat mechanic. It makes no loss runs almost impossible.

Question:
Why are they so MANY greeds at day one...i mean i will have to have a stone wall just to stave off attacks. But i wonder what makes it so many greeds? Is it because they are coming out of alot of portals or is it because of that it is Island 5?

So, i can do 4-5 kamakazi runs and the next time i return....it will be EASY mode because they aren´t so much greed from the beginning?

[Xxanno]

Nope, it won't be easy, only possible. I think the greed spawn in a fixed amount. You could instead focus all of your effort on the port. That way will the greed be forced to only rush you from the mountain.

[jcode]

Originally posted by Xxanno:

Nope, it won't be easy, only possible. I think the greed spawn in a fixed amount. You could instead focus all of your effort on the port. That way will the greed be forced to only rush you from the mountain.

Well, that doesn´t sounds like fun gameplay...storm 1 portal...die....repeat like 6-7 times.

[Xxanno]

Originally posted by jcode:

Originally posted by Xxanno:

Nope, it won't be easy, only possible. I think the greed spawn in a fixed amount. You could instead focus all of your effort on the port. That way will the greed be forced to only rush you from the mountain.

Well, that doesn´t sounds like fun gameplay...storm 1 portal...die....repeat like 6-7 times.

Yep it sucked. I played shogun mode too, no spear men for me! Only retarded ninjas.
Oh, one thing: Towers last forever.

[Chapel]

Something you have to understand is the quantity and ferocity of the Greed does not reset after every island. The difficulty of the game continues to rise everyday, so your problem is not that island 5 is very difficult. Your problem is that you spent too much time lollygagging on your previous islands. If you pause the game you will see your 'true' day number in the corner of the screen, which is how many days since you started playing. Judge your decisions off that.

[JamesLaw]

The game kind of forces you to lollygag with winter though... it's just not feasible running to a new island mid winter.

[D#]

im on island 5 at day 128, spent 2 winters on island 1... so far not too bad.

[slick-elbows moi]

The trick is tower defense. You want at least 1, preferably more, towers beyond your walls. That way the greed horde gets thinned down substantially before they get to your walls. Fewer Greed means less damage to the walls.

If you're going to attack portals, especailly in the later islands, upgrade your towers so that they're covered to prevent flyers from eating your troops.

[jcode]

Found out the game mechanics about greed spawning...see my edited post.

[Chapel]

2 winters by island 5 is bad. The first winter starts at turn 50 and you should be at the 4th island by turn 20.
To give you some perspective, there is absolutely nothing for you on island 1 that doesn't cost gems which you don't have to start, so no reason to be there. Also the ship builds fully with minimal investment. #1 priority is to leave.
Island #2 you upgrade to stone, then leave immediately.
Island #3 you get the builder upgrade then leave.
At this point you should probably be under day 20, even when making sure to have 4 archers and 3 builders as well as a full sack of gold and whatever hermits and mounts you desire (though the island 2 and 3 hermits aren't very useful and you can return later for them) before leaving each island. You will be at island 4 with everything you need and seeing more than 4 greeds per wave at this point would be shocking.