Uh, GUARDS? WHY AREN'T YOU STAYING WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE STAYING?

[Superine0001]

For some reason, my guards won't go to my advanced guard posts. Sometimes, There will be one guard in one advanced guard post. The problem is, the most important advanced guard posts are not used, ever. I even tried placing an armory nearby, but that didn't help either. I need help!

[Whirl]

This is something people have noted. The AI is really, really bad at prioritising. Advanced Guard Posts seem to be something that is only used when guards have nothing else to do.

[Alpha [Fenris]]

Originally posted by Whirl:

This is something people have noted. The AI is really, really bad at prioritising. Advanced Guard Posts seem to be something that is only used when guards have nothing else to do.

that would imply that they use it at all
mine are just sitting around
even if i remove their tables they dont man the posts till alert is on

[giddalaus]

Originally posted by Alpha Fenris:

Originally posted by Whirl:

This is something people have noted. The AI is really, really bad at prioritising. Advanced Guard Posts seem to be something that is only used when guards have nothing else to do.

that would imply that they use it at all
mine are just sitting around
even if i remove their tables they dont man the posts till alert is on

are u using the advansed guard post? having less tables does help. but a lot of times the guard vill leave before the replacement is there, and if the replacement is cout up in some fight , it can take a long time 4 anyone 2 return to the guard post

[Superine0001]

Originally posted by Whirl:

This is something people have noted. The AI is really, really bad at prioritising. Advanced Guard Posts seem to be something that is only used when guards have nothing else to do.

I say the priorities for muscle minions should go like this, when unaltered from micromanagement:
1: Fighting
2: Schemes
3: Training/promoting
4: Advanced guard post
5: Security camera operations
6: Guard table
7: Teaching other muscle minions

[allenosborn1013]

Yep I gave up on guards and just flag people and hit the alarm button. F this game and the devs who just wanted a cash grab. I trusted this would be fun and faithful but the only thing that was faithful to the first was the BUGS and how broke some things are.

[Tenshin51]

You just need to unlock Luxury beds minions will manned their post except control room.

[Death]

I'm pretty sure that you can assign specific minions to man those guard posts. I'll have to jump in and double check, but I'm like 90% sure.

[袁銀-ゆん-Yun]

Originally posted by Death:

I'm pretty sure that you can assign specific minions to man those guard posts. I'll have to jump in and double check, but I'm like 90% sure.

You can't specify them to man a post, You can tell them to sit at a guard table or Monitor though.

The thing about Advanced Guard Post is that it drains Smarts on the guards that uses them, so after a time they will leave to replenish their Smarts. It also conflicts if they have a Guard Table or Monitor with a free seat, in which case they may go and use that instead. Also Guard Tables drain Morale very slowly, while Monitors drain both Smarts and Morale very slowly, which causes them to go replenish their stats once they run out.

Only when I have more Muscle Minions then Seats at a Table or Monitors and then some, do I see Advanced Guard Post Manned. And even then it depends on the Minion's Stats and the time it takes for them to replenish their stats.

[Royal Raven]

Early game, they won't go there much and even stay long. Later game when you have more Muscle guys and have also researched a lot of things that increases muscle stats they will go there and stay longer.

I can not remember what stat drains when they stand there on guard, I think Smarts.

[袁銀-ゆん-Yun]

Originally posted by Royal Raven:

I can not remember what stat drains when they stand there on guard, I think Morale.

Advanced Guard Posts drains Smarts while it's manned.

[PrimoVato]

Well to my understanding, to have the advanced posts manned it simply breaks down to : How many guards you have alive in base vs how many tables you have placed. Your tables fill up first, well cuz they like to sit down rather than stand I guess. Then to the posts if all else is clear/ fights/ schemes/ training. If your tables for muscle don't sit constantly full, you need more muscle minions to man the advanced guard posts.

[Royal Raven]

Originally posted by PrimoVato:

Well to my understanding, to have the advanced posts manned it simply breaks down to : How many guards you have alive in base vs how many tables you have placed. Your tables fill up first, well cuz they like to sit down rather than stand I guess. Then to the posts if all else is clear/ fights/ schemes/ training. If your tables for muscle don't sit constantly full, you need more muscle minions to man the advanced guard posts.

Yeah those guard tables can play a factor. I think for the longest time I had 1 advanced guard table. I recently put another one and I did notice a difference in the advance guard post getting manned.

The only reason I added in another guard table, was that I added in another front entrance to my base, so I wanted a group of guards to be at the ready if anything went down.

I don't know how I feel about guard tables, I mean I would never over use them or add too many. I find 1 or 2 enough. I might even try none. I find advanced guard post better and the fact that muscle minions roam around corridors can be enough and having cameras.

[Sasparillafizz]

From what I've seen the order seems to be
1) Replenish Stats
2) Man Cameras (if set to muscle)
3) Man guard tables
4) Man guard posts
5) Help teach muscle minions

They'll do the next item down if the items above it have been taken care of.

[Myst Lunarbane]

Yeh as Sasparillafizz's more accurate priority list shows, replenishing stats is usually a minion's priority. This means that instead of just having one room for replenishing stats in only one area you should have rooms in multiple different areas, making sure to at least have beds and messhalls near every area you want your minions to be most active/focused in is very important.
The most simple way to go about this is to also know what type of minions you want in that area most often, your cover operation should have fairly easy access to things that restore Deception minion stats.
The armoury anywhere with guard posts, and usual entrances agents will use should have easy access to things that restore Muscle minion stats. (as an additional recommendation build an armoury near your vault)
And the laboratory + control rooms should have easy access to things that restore science minion stats.
Additionally more general + worker specific stat restoring things should be placed near the training room and near where your minions pickup objects before placing them in your base.
Even further advice when building new levels though not required it can also be a good idea to make some small rooms containing beds and serving food, which can later be paved over with other things once the construction is done.

[kasnavada]

I don't have any problems getting my guard tables nor my guard post manned.

However, I did have this issue earlier. They're probably running around replenishing stats. At least that what's they did when I played earlier. When I optimised my base I didn't have this issue anymore.