Recruit all henchmen/all loot achievements...

[DealwiththeDevil]

this may be stupid but its driving me insane...

i'm on a mission to attempt to get every loot item in a single run through, as well as recruit every henchman in a single run through to unlock some of the very few steam achievements i have left, but i just cant do it...

with the loot side stories, i completed every one before advancing on with the main objective to make sure i covered every loot story in all 6 acts of the game, but came out in the end with only two missing (the asteroid and terracotta army).

also with the henchmen, i've been told you can only recruit 5 before them saying 'agreeing to work with you, not for you' under their character profile, so does this mean i have to kill a henchman to make room for the next? or will it just develop further in the game to be able to have all 12 of them.

please can someone just clear this up for me and where i went wrong ty x

[SpellSword0]

Originally posted by DealwiththeDevil:

with the loot side stories, i completed every one before advancing on with the main objective to make sure i covered every loot story in all 6 acts of the game, but came out in the end with only two missing (the asteroid and terracotta army).

This is likely just a bug, or a potential design choice(?) on the devs part. As an example of the latter, some side stories for the henchmen are dependent on other side stories not being complete yet, otherwise they won't show up. I've also had a bug happen where the final bit of a side story just didn't appear for me for any known normal reason.

Originally posted by DealwiththeDevil:

also with the henchmen, i've been told you can only recruit 5 before them saying 'agreeing to work with you, not for you' under their character profile, so does this mean i have to kill a henchman to make room for the next? or will it just develop further in the game to be able to have all 12 of them.

Yep! This is exactly what you gotta do, systematically execute your henchmen to make room. But there are enough bugs and issues surrounding these things that it might not be worth trying to get these achievements right now. Best of luck all the same!

[kasnavada]

AFAIK 2 henchmen have conflicting storylines, if you recruit one you can't recruit the other (Carl & Clara).

About loot, there was 2 loots that were mutually exclusive pre-patch 1.3, but, somehow they're not in your list. Checking the EG2 wikia loot for pre-conditions might help you there.

[Prometheus]

Meteor you have to have 15 scientists recruited. It can appear very early, like 3rd main mission early. Which means your loot run might already be borked because early loot often becomes unavailable after advancing far enough.

Terracotta army requires you recruit Clara Jones.

Last I heard its not possible to get the henchmen achive because of the mutual exclusive between Carl and Clara.

Are flame and hubble still mutually exclusive? Please confirm if you have one or both of those. They were blocking the loot achieve previously.

[Naxos]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Are flame and hubble still mutually exclusive? Please confirm if you have one or both of those. They were blocking the loot achieve previously.

I can confirm, I got the flame, and Hubbard simply isn't coming up, despite me being near the end of my run.

Also never gotten the Giant Egg despite having the biochemists, nor the time machine with the quantum chemists. I'm not even sure what caused -those- to soft lock.

This is honestly frustrating.

[Memento Moriarty]

I came here to post a very similar complaint. Just finished my completionist run in which I stopped after EVERY main story mission to do all the side missions. Keep in mind, the game had a significant patch in the middle of this campaign buuuuuut,,,

I could not complete Carl Caford & Magnolia Ming's recruit mission (Clara didn't show up AFAIK).
I could not get the follwing loot:
Hubbard Slice
Statue of Liberty Torch
Tsar Bomb, Giant Egg
Dodo Educator
World's Oldest Bones
Terra Cotta Army
Mr Scruffles (have season pass)
John Steele's Defeat (have season pass)

I think having side stories disappear is a design decision, and a stupid one if so, but something seems broken here considering the achievements. Also, I hope the get all loot achievement does not include DLCs, that's just mean.

[kasnavada]

I don't know if I'd call the achievement is "broken", but the persons in charge of achievements and the persons in charge of designing the loot quests at least had a communication difficulty. Same with the henchmen guy(s) and the achievement guy(s).

However, there were more pressing issues to fix in the first patches.

My take on it is that it'll be fixed in the next updates if we make enough noise about it.

[SpellSword0]

Originally posted by Abecedarius:

Mr Scruffles (have season pass)
John Steele's Defeat (have season pass)

If I'm not mistaken, John Steele's Defeat and Mr Scruffles are decorative items you have available from the start. Potentially only for the inner sanctum? They are not actual loot pieces with side stories.

[DealwiththeDevil]

well now i'm thinking its just now a lack of communication between the platforms like said above... which kinda sucks

speaking of the hubbard, i didn't have the opportunity to get that so maybe there's more i haven't been able to achieve without knowing! after counting i came out with 29 loot items. if there's more i couldn't possibly get that sends me mad as doing the whole run again, in the hopes of getting one achievement is tedious (as much as i love the game itself).

(acording to evil genius wiki i don't have aurora borealis, flame of prometheeus, hubbard slice, meteor, mr scuffles, terracotta army & tsar bomb)

i fell like in the upcoming updates there needs to be an option to, once having completed it with the chosen genius, to go back (just before the huge influx of all the crime lords and agents before firing the doomsday device) and carry on playing the game and unlocking more and doing missed side stories... theres only so many times i can rebuild after completion (6).

[Plake]

Originally posted by S.S.:

Originally posted by Abecedarius:

Mr Scruffles (have season pass)
John Steele's Defeat (have season pass)

If I'm not mistaken, John Steele's Defeat and Mr Scruffles are decorative items you have available from the start. Potentially only for the inner sanctum? They are not actual loot pieces with side stories.

100% correct on Scuffles! Not included in the season pass, but was given for free when registering for the newsletter in the first week of release (and before). He is available from the start of the game.

Edit: And he can be placed anywhere, not just the Sanctum (I have him in my Vault, before in the casino)...

[Gain]

If you are trying just do it in separate games, one for loot and another for henchmen.

Have you noticed that some loots do not have a place in stats page?
Sands of Time
Million Bees
Pandora's Box

pre-purchase Deluxe Edition - loots have a place in stats
Aurora Borealis
Fountain of Youth
Trojan Horse

The solution to fix this:
➡Pre-order Deluxe loots should not count for this achievement and the other three should.
➡Remove mutual exclusivity of loots.

[Alun1]

Originally posted by S.S.:

Originally posted by Abecedarius:

Mr Scruffles (have season pass)
John Steele's Defeat (have season pass)

If I'm not mistaken, John Steele's Defeat and Mr Scruffles are decorative items you have available from the start. Potentially only for the inner sanctum? They are not actual loot pieces with side stories.

they are also not part of the season pass, Mr Scruffles is given away for signing up to the rebellion newsletter, John Steeles defeat was a limited giveaway on there discord.

[FutureFlash94]

If you want all possible loot in pursuit of the achievement, it is advised to Study the unlock conditions, progress slowly through the campaign story one objective at a time as a few items are only briefly available, to choose Eli as your starting Henchman (or recruit him by finishing his Side Stories as soon as possible) and to avoid completing Atomic Olga's story-line (but make sure to awaken her and Agent X as soon as possible).

See: https://evilgenius.fandom.com/wiki/Loot_(EG2)