Why are the bots so dumb

[G0D]

Before you comment telling me to stop playing offline and look for a group, no. For your benefit as well as mine. A: I usually have to get up from my PC a lot and would likely get kicked out of a lot of online games. B: People take games too seriously nowadays. Im not trying to sit in a game and get yelled at by some loser for 45 mins because I pick up the wrong gun or something.

Now my real problem: It blows my mind that the bots in a game 16 years old from 2008, Left 4 Dead 1, are eons ahead in terms of intelligence, responsiveness, and overall capabilities than a game in 2024. In L4D1 bots will pick up better weapons, pick up medkits and pills, use them on themselves and teammates when health is low, immediately revive teammates, etc. In this game I have to stand over a medkit and yell at them until they realize its there even then they only sometimes heal themselves and never others.

This game is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good but as someone who really cant play online with randoms, I depend on bots to be able to enjoy my experience. I shouldnt feel like I'd be better off playing alone than with the bots. I get this game is meant to be played online with other people and making bots smarter is obviously not on your list of priorities but I am begging you to please improve them at least enough so that they can heal players and each other. I dont need them to be aimbot terminators that will drop a bull before it even spawns in. I just want to feel like I have some sort of team behind me.

[BORG]

Yeah this game's bots are relatively brain dead. The way they behave is light years behind L4D's bots. What makes it funnier yet more frustrating, is that they've actually gotten worse over the years despite the marginal improvements. Two steps forward one step back. The AI is so poorly designed. Example? They try to melee the freaking Juggernaut and a lot of times end up getting destroyed by hordes because they're standing there like idiots trying to tank a Juggernaut. This happens a lot with the Bull too. There's no adaptive AI to know when they should pick someone up or thin out some Zeke before getting a player up, etc. Then there's the part where they get stuck on things a lot. Another one that's annoying is they split up from the players sometimes all the bots going with one player while ignoring another while searching a map for documents or weapons resulting in the player left alone getting downed should a horde show up near and overwhelm them. Another problem is they have no sense of where the player is shooting and walk right in front your line of fire. I could go on, but too much to list.

I really like lots of things about the game, but there's so many things that are such a mess and been ignored for years that it's more and more discouraging to play.

[Valcali]

Trust me I feel your pain in regards to the stupid bots. Just keep letting people know, that you are looking for other players. But it's not just the bots that become super annoying, it's players that don't know what the hell they are doing. The ones who horde their money, and your the one who's stuck buying defenses, etc.

[Saber Help]

Hello! Thank you for your feedback. We will pass your critique on to the development team for further review.

[Coderfacts]

Glad the developer responded here, cause i too am absolutely over how brainless the bots are

[Arxon Dragon]

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Glad the developer responded here, cause i too am absolutely over how brainless the bots are

The developer is a bot. Still same answer just to keeping players cool while they do nothing :)

[Terminal Meltdown]

Originally posted by Saber Help:

Hello! Thank you for your feedback. We will pass your critique on to the development team for further review.

^
This response proves how dumb the in game bots are.

[BORG]

Originally posted by Terminal Meltdown:

Originally posted by Saber Help:

Hello! Thank you for your feedback. We will pass your critique on to the development team for further review.

^
This response proves how dumb the in game bots are.

"Passing critique... Beep boop. ...we are investigating the issue...Boop beep boop..." .Kzzt... "Please send us a..." ...kzzt... "..bug report with your KSIVA code so we ..." Breeeeeoooorrrrpppt... kzzzzzt... "FATAL ERROR: Assistive N3Wl31E module has failed."

10/10 WWZ bots level.
🤣

[Saberyoko]

You should have played the game likes 1~2 years ago. I suffered so much with the conjuction of bots and heavy stuttering.
The bots at time couldn't kill a single zombie effectivelly and when they enter close-combat a single zombie could tear like 35~40% of their life on NORMAL difficulty. It was impossible to play this game on hard with bots. Impossible.

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Glad the developer responded here, cause i too am absolutely over how brainless the bots are

They also rellies on bots and automated answers when posting here.

[schicic]

Originally posted by Saberyoko:

You should have played the game likes 1~2 years ago. I suffered so much with the conjuction of bots and heavy stuttering.
The bots at time couldn't kill a single zombie effectivelly and when they enter close-combat a single zombie could tear like 35~40% of their life on NORMAL difficulty. It was impossible to play this game on hard with bots. Impossible.

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Glad the developer responded here, cause i too am absolutely over how brainless the bots are

They also rellies on bots and automated answers when posting here.

I liked when the whole team of bots would run away from the downed player, or the best one I've seen was: One of them came to revive the play, but kept canceling the animation about halfway so it looked like the bot was t-bagging the poor guy. I still remember that from years ago XD

[Saber Help]

Originally posted by Saberyoko:

You should have played the game likes 1~2 years ago. I suffered so much with the conjuction of bots and heavy stuttering.
The bots at time couldn't kill a single zombie effectivelly and when they enter close-combat a single zombie could tear like 35~40% of their life on NORMAL difficulty. It was impossible to play this game on hard with bots. Impossible.

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Glad the developer responded here, cause i too am absolutely over how brainless the bots are

They also rellies on bots and automated answers when posting here.

You are a good joker! Please note that our responses here are not automated. Do not mistake official-style correspondence with automated messages. Thank you for your understanding!

[Saber Help]

Originally posted by BORG:

Originally posted by Terminal Meltdown:

^
This response proves how dumb the in game bots are.

"Passing critique... Beep boop. ...we are investigating the issue...Boop beep boop..." .Kzzt... "Please send us a..." ...kzzt... "..bug report with your KSIVA code so we ..." Breeeeeoooorrrrpppt... kzzzzzt... "FATAL ERROR: Assistive N3Wl31E module has failed."

10/10 WWZ bots level.
🤣

We will not pass this piece of feedback, though.

[Coderfacts]

Originally posted by Saber Help:

Originally posted by Saberyoko:

You should have played the game likes 1~2 years ago. I suffered so much with the conjuction of bots and heavy stuttering.
The bots at time couldn't kill a single zombie effectivelly and when they enter close-combat a single zombie could tear like 35~40% of their life on NORMAL difficulty. It was impossible to play this game on hard with bots. Impossible.



They also rellies on bots and automated answers when posting here.

You are a good joker! Please note that our responses here are not automated. Do not mistake official-style correspondence with automated messages. Thank you for your understanding!

Thanks Saber! I think what's missing that gamers might want to see, is how we can stay up to date with the Bot fixes, if there is some sort of ticketing system or something that would give us confidence that it's being worked and and in on the cards for a future WWZ update?

Appreciate what you guys do! Love the game!

[Saber Help]

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Originally posted by Saber Help:

You are a good joker! Please note that our responses here are not automated. Do not mistake official-style correspondence with automated messages. Thank you for your understanding!

Thanks Saber! I think what's missing that gamers might want to see, is how we can stay up to date with the Bot fixes, if there is some sort of ticketing system or something that would give us confidence that it's being worked and and in on the cards for a future WWZ update?

Appreciate what you guys do! Love the game!

Such things are processed internally, so there is no public feedback tracking method. You can submit a feedback ticket to us via the website if you want to be sure, it is our job to process your report and pass it on to the developers.

[BORG]

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Originally posted by Saber Help:

You are a good joker! Please note that our responses here are not automated. Do not mistake official-style correspondence with automated messages. Thank you for your understanding!

Thanks Saber! I think what's missing that gamers might want to see, is how we can stay up to date with the Bot fixes, if there is some sort of ticketing system or something that would give us confidence that it's being worked and and in on the cards for a future WWZ update?

Appreciate what you guys do! Love the game!

We don't get that kind of info. We're left in the dark until they drop updates. Otherwise, there is zero transparency from Saber. Blind trust.

Bots are never going to be good or great. We all just need to accept that Saber either does't care that much to put any substantial time into them or really sucks at creating AI bots.

Originally posted by Saber Help:

Originally posted by BORG:

"Passing critique... Beep boop. ...we are investigating the issue...Boop beep boop..." .Kzzt... "Please send us a..." ...kzzt... "..bug report with your KSIVA code so we ..." Breeeeeoooorrrrpppt... kzzzzzt... "FATAL ERROR: Assistive N3Wl31E module has failed."

10/10 WWZ bots level.
🤣

We will not pass this piece of feedback, though.

It wasn't intended to be feedback. The fact that you responded with that response is pure robotic comedy gold!

"Beep boop beep... beep.. boop.." 🤣

Any ETA when bots will be less stupid?

[G0D]

Originally posted by Saber Help:

Originally posted by Coderfacts:

Thanks Saber! I think what's missing that gamers might want to see, is how we can stay up to date with the Bot fixes, if there is some sort of ticketing system or something that would give us confidence that it's being worked and and in on the cards for a future WWZ update?

Appreciate what you guys do! Love the game!

Such things are processed internally, so there is no public feedback tracking method. You can submit a feedback ticket to us via the website if you want to be sure, it is our job to process your report and pass it on to the developers.

While you report the bots, you should throw in a suggestion to actually be able to pause the game when playing solo offline. Feels like its just logical.