Deleted Monika

[twantenho]

LOL I deleted monika at the end of the game when I discovered who she really is. When I start the game now monika has complety disappeared from the game, does anyone know what happen if you just keep playing the game without her? I do not feel like playing it again

[Heduardo]

You should keep playing, you are at the end of the game.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Heduardo:

You should keep playing, you are at the end of the game.

There's no true end of this game, you choose your own ending.

Yeah, but it would be much better for both parties if you decided to take the garbage out AKA delete Monika.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

Yeah, but it would be much better for both parties if you decided to take the garbage out AKA delete Monika.

Better get used to the fact that most spared Monika and that in other timelines she got away with it.

Technically, this game has only one ending. Monika's "ending" is an illusion because you simply stopped playing the game. The concept of that part of the game is that you are stuck with her, and you have to delete her.

But it would be weird and lazy if she simply didn't say anything the whole time, even when she prepared all of it. So in a clever manner, they have her a lot of unique features for that scene. She reacting to you quitting, she reacting to you saving, it's all part of making Monika look authentic and a concrete character and at the same time reinforce the idea that this is not going anywhere, which is a very clever game design choice.

Not mentioning the huge chunk of dialogue she has. It helps understand her character more, since we barely interacted with her truly the whole game.

However the point is, you are supposed to delete her. Eventually the dialogue will start looping (not sure about this), which further proves that you aren't really ending the game, you are just doing the same as stopping reading a book before the last page.

So yeah, this game has only one canon ending and yes it involves deleting Monika.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

Technically, this game has only one ending. Monika's "ending" is an illusion because you simply stopped playing the game. The concept of that part of the game is that you are stuck with her, and you have to delete her.

But it would be weird and lazy if she simply didn't say anything the whole time, even when she prepared all of it. So in a clever manner, they have her a lot of unique features for that scene. She reacting to you quitting, she reacting to you saving, it's all part of making Monika look authentic and a concrete character and at the same time reinforce the idea that this is not going anywhere, which is a very clever game design choice.

Not mentioning the huge chunk of dialogue she has. It helps understand her character more, since we barely interacted with her truly the whole game.

However the point is, you are supposed to delete her. Eventually the dialogue will start looping (not sure about this), which further proves that you aren't really ending the game, you are just doing the same as stopping reading a book before the last page.

So yeah, this game has only one canon ending and yes it involves deleting Monika.

It starts looping? I didn't know that, but even then this game is about the player. You as the player may "finish" the game or just end it there, it's your choice. Kinda like Undertale, it's all about the player and your choices and it influences the game.

"is an illusion because you simply stopped playing the game" That is the same when you "end" the game, you stop playing.

"and you have to delete her"; "HAVE TO" is a strong word.

With your logic, i have finished a book even if i never really read all it's pages because "i want to".

If you want to give yourself the illusion that the game is over, have fun. You know it's not.

The whole setting is supposed to make you unconfortable. The background music, the weird things happening on the actual background and her very close always staring at you are the reason why everyone always ends deleting her.

You are supposed to. She has killed her friends for her own interests and smiled when she saw Yuri dead on the ground covered in blood. She's a bad person. She eventually regrets her actions, giving her more character, but still.

Nobody played this game on the first run and stopped at Monika, at least intentionally. Everyone deleted her. The game finishes when the credits roll. period.

[Kawaiian Pizza]

How much conversation with monika is there really? Tbh i deleted her the absolute second she said 'it was so easy they were just in a folder labled characters'. Didn't really stick around to see what she would say.

[Heduardo]

If you can progress further then you haven't reached the end.

[Heduardo]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Heduardo:

If you can progress further then you haven't reached the end.

There are games with multiple endings. Some can be reached fast and some require more work.

That's true, but staying with Monika isn't an ending.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

With your logic, i have finished a book even if i never really read all it's pages because "i want to".

If you want to give yourself the illusion that the game is over, have fun. You know it's not.

The whole setting is supposed to make you unconfortable. The background music, the weird things happening on the actual background and her very close always staring at you are the reason why everyone always ends deleting her.

You are supposed to. She has killed her friends for her own interests and smiled when she saw Yuri dead on the ground covered in blood. She's a bad person. She eventually regrets her actions, giving her more character, but still.

Nobody played this game on the first run and stopped at Monika, at least intentionally. Everyone deleted her. The game finishes when the credits roll. period.

This game has no definitive ending like a book, so your point breaks there. You can end it by deleting everyone, staying with Monika, or saving some files that are supposed to be your "friends". Why do you insist that there is only one ending? Does it bother you that sometimes people get away with doing bad stuff?

She gets her regrets when the player decides to delete her, she couldn't care less if you stay there with her. Everyone deleted her? Oh you know everyone who played this game, interesting.

That's a huge pile of horsecrap and you know it.

If you can progress, then the game is not over, at least canonically. You can think you finished the game all you want, but keep in mind the *actual* game didn't end.

And there's a major difference between a game with multiple endings and your "ending". In a game with multiple endings, the game specifically tells you that the game is over, be it a simple "The End" or the credits rolling.

You can have the Monika ending as your fancanon ending all you want. The actual game is not over, period.

[Heduardo]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Heduardo:

That's true, but staying with Monika isn't an ending.

How come? You literally have to modify game files in order to "progress", so yeah, it counts for me as an ending if you play normally. Ever played Undertale? Genocide ending is the same, you stay in a void,forever if you choose to not modify files or take a deal with the devil.

Doesn't matter if you have to do something outside of the game to reach the end of it. Even more when is a meta game and it tells you almost exactly what you have to do.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

That's a huge pile of horsecrap and you know it.

If you can progress, then the game is not over, at least canonically. You can think you finished the game all you want, but keep in mind the *actual* game didn't end.

And there's a major difference between a game with multiple endings and your "ending". In a game with multiple endings, the game specifically tells you that the game is over, be it a simple "The End" or the credits rolling.

You can have the Monika ending as your fancanon ending all you want. The actual game is not over, period.

So by your logic the game ends with Sayori hanging as well? When infact the game just started? The ending you're talking about is just an epilogue and could be considered a fancanon ending for those who love the other characters as well if you look it in another way. The game relies on the player to act, be it deleting files or doing nothing and playing normally.

No, no no no and no.

First off, you got my logic wrong. In this game, Sayori's death and the "End" that appears is not really a way to tell you that the game ends but rather a little touch they added to the situation. The game actually ends when the credits roll in DDLC's case. And i'm sorry, but looking at what happens after deleting Monika as an optional epilogue is just plain... stupid.

It's part of the canon story and shouldn't be ignored at all.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

No, no no no and no.

First off, you got my logic wrong. In this game, Sayori's death and the "End" that appears is not really a way to tell you that the game ends but rather a little touch they added to the situation. The game actually ends when the credits roll in DDLC's case. And i'm sorry, but looking at what happens after deleting Monika as an optional epilogue is just plain... stupid.

It's part of the canon story and shouldn't be ignored at all.

Oh now the game telling "The End" is just a prank, how convenient. Mind you deleting Monika is an ending for the credits and all, but that still doesn't tell me how staying with her is not an ending itself. Some endings don't have credits, it's not the first time a game does that.

It is an optional epilogue if you don't care for the other girls.

Oh jesus christ.

No, i didn't say it was a prank, it was just for aesthetic. Just like that "END" after the Natsuki jumpscare. The game is not over at those parts and the "endings" are mostly symbolic. The game is over when the credits roll. This game ends when the credits roll. There is no such thing as a Monika ending because it's just a part of the game and you need to progress it to get to the actual ending of the game.

I don't mind if you keep revisiting that scene as much as you'd like, but if you are actually openly telling people that it's an actual ending, i'm sorry, but regardless of your opinion, it's a fact that there's no such thing as an "Monika ending". Saying that the ending is just a optional epilogue is a insult for the dev team as that ending was a very good conclusion to the game.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

Oh jesus christ.

No, i didn't say it was a prank, it was just for aesthetic. Just like that "END" after the Natsuki jumpscare. The game is not over at those parts and the "endings" are mostly symbolic. The game is over when the credits roll. This game ends when the credits roll. There is no such thing as a Monika ending because it's just a part of the game and you need to progress it to get to the actual ending of the game.

I don't mind if you keep revisiting that scene as much as you'd like, but if you are actually openly telling people that it's an actual ending, i'm sorry, but regardless of your opinion, it's a fact that there's no such thing as an "Monika ending". Saying that the ending is just a optional epilogue is a insult for the dev team as that ending was a very good conclusion to the game.

"DEN" in this case but details.

How many times do I have to repeat? The game relies on the player making choices, meta, how you say it. I won't honestly stay here to repeat myself, like some people say, we can agree to disagree.

It's not like I'm the only thinking that, so thinking that me "openly telling" people this is an ending as it's some sort of lunatic rambling kinda shows how you're close minded regarding other opinions. And now you're playing the victim card, like I'm insulting the dev team for... what??? For considering something an ending?

There's the keyword: "Considering". You might consider it something, but the truth is, it's not, and no level of ignorance will change that. Be happy with Monika all you want, the game not only wants you to delete her to progress (and shows it with obvious signs like background music and hints on her dialogue) but you are supposed to so you can see the conclusion of the story.

And yes, the conclusion was really nice, it's insulting you call it an "optional epilogue" because you really believe the "Monika ending" is canon. I have repeated this many times because it's the bloody truth.

[Lain]

Originally posted by StrangeHenry:

Originally posted by Megumin:

There's the keyword: "Considering". You might consider it something, but the truth is, it's not, and no level of ignorance will change that. Be happy with Monika all you want, the game not only wants you to delete her to progress (and shows it with obvious signs like background music and hints on her dialogue) but you are supposed to so you can see the conclusion of the story.

And yes, the conclusion was really nice, it's insulting you call it an "optional epilogue" because you really believe the "Monika ending" is canon. I have repeated this many times because it's the bloody truth.

"Ignorance" Now you're calling half of the fandom ignorant just for considering (yeah) the game to be more than a linear trip.

In what way the games wants you to delete Monika? Background music? What? Hints? Where? Again, the conclusion of the story if you like the other girls, what if you're content with Monika? Why would you delete her? The game is literally a player's choice.

It's an optional epilogue for some, I don't see how it is offending. What you claim as truth may be not for others. Come on, it's simple.

There's no such thing as optional epilogue for some and not for others, come the hell on, it's a part of the freaking game. Jesus christ.

The game gives subtle hints because of the borderline obvious creepy background music, the actual creepy background, and a lot of major hints to freaking delete her on her dialogue. She even tells you where the file is if you're playing on Steam. Holy Object 279, the game is pretty much slapping it on your face "IF YOU WANNA TO GO FURTHER, YOU WILL HAVE TO DELETE HER."

The game is not over until the credits roll and Monika sings her song she worked so hard to compose. It cannot be an epilogue because the characters still develop, for example, Monika accepting that it's not her, but it's the literature club that never will allow anyone to be happy.

It's not an ending. The game is not over at Monika. The game is over when the credits roll and she sings her song, which is a really simple formula for ending games those days.

[Lai5e]

You're legit asking for spoilers, just play it ffs, u played it fo 3 hours.

[banti]

you didn't do anything special by deleting her .. just keep playing ffs