The 25th Ward: The Silver Case

The 25th Ward: The Silver Case

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ringtones Mar 17, 2018 @ 3:14pm
Black Out (spoilers)
So is there a correct choice? Maybe having to do with the hidden achievements?
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昨日のROBO Mar 17, 2018 @ 3:34pm 
apparently you need to do all of them...
NoMoreSpearows Mar 17, 2018 @ 10:57pm 
You do, indeed, have to do all of them. It'll take you a few hours. If you've got a podcast to listen to, it'd be a good time to do so.
accro au porno Mar 18, 2018 @ 11:27am 
Do these ends actually mean something ? I've been completing 4 of them since i unlocked black out. Opening my third eye, talking with Shiroyabu, exploding like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and kill Aoyama and Akama.

It always sounds like some meta kind of ♥♥♥♥ and it's also really strange and really "off" the game.

Someone wants to talk about these ? Also, is there someone here who tried to complete all of them ? I want to believe in the net.
Danny Dataly Mar 18, 2018 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by GHBeau salaud:
Do these ends actually mean something ? I've been completing 4 of them since i unlocked black out. Opening my third eye, talking with Shiroyabu, exploding like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and kill Aoyama and Akama.

It always sounds like some meta kind of ♥♥♥♥ and it's also really strange and really "off" the game.

Someone wants to talk about these ? Also, is there someone here who tried to complete all of them ? I want to believe in the net.
All 100 endings are just joke endings where stupid things happen, some of them have references to other Suda titles or other games altogether (there is one which references Hotline Miami) and a few of them may give some hints in regards of the events of the actual game (mostly dealing with Shiroyabu), but as a whole they're mostly unimportant.

There is a sort of true ending if you manage to get all 100 which will play out every time you replay the chapter from that point onward; unfortunately this process takes around 10 hours and it's excruciating, I understand the implied joke that it's boring on porpouse but I wish there was some way to fast skip dialogues, the silver case games must be the only visual novels I ever played without a turbo skip option. I did enjoy the true ending but not the process that took me there. (Do not expect any mind blowing revelations; it's more of a thematic coda to the series, the entire final chapter is basically a huge fourth wall break with several nukes)

Either way I screencapped and uploaded all 100 joke endings in case anyone ever feels like re-reading them without going through the endless pain of replaying the chapter over and over; Still, you're gonna have to do it if you want to see the actual final scene of the game.

Fun fact: the ps4 version has a bunch of different endings compared to the PC one, referencing both Gundam and Spider-man instead of Batman

EDIT: it just came to my attention that MEGA links aren't allowed on the steam forums so I can't link to the album with all the endings
Last edited by Danny Dataly; Mar 18, 2018 @ 12:15pm
accro au porno Mar 18, 2018 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Xed51:
Originally posted by GHBeau salaud:
Do these ends actually mean something ? I've been completing 4 of them since i unlocked black out. Opening my third eye, talking with Shiroyabu, exploding like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and kill Aoyama and Akama.

It always sounds like some meta kind of ♥♥♥♥ and it's also really strange and really "off" the game.

Someone wants to talk about these ? Also, is there someone here who tried to complete all of them ? I want to believe in the net.
All 100 endings are just joke endings where stupid things happen, some of them have references to other Suda titles or other games altogether (there is one which references Hotline Miami) and a few of them may give some hints in regards of the events of the actual game (mostly dealing with Shiroyabu), but as a whole they're mostly unimportant.

There is a sort of true ending if you manage to get all 100 which will play out every time you replay the chapter from that point onward; unfortunately this process takes around 10 hours and it's excruciating, I understand the implied joke that it's boring on porpouse but I wish there was some way to fast skip dialogues, the silver case games must be the only visual novels I ever played without a turbo skip option. I did enjoy the true ending but not the process that took me there. (Do not expect any mind blowing revelations; it's more of a thematic coda to the series, the entire final chapter is basically a huge fourth wall break with several nukes)

Either way I screencapped and uploaded all 100 joke endings in case anyone ever feels like re-reading them without going through the endless pain of replaying the chapter over and over; Still, you're gonna have to do it if you want to see the actual final scene of the game.

Fun fact: the ps4 version has a bunch of different endings compared to the PC one, referencing both Gundam and Spider-man instead of Batman

EDIT: it just came to my attention that MEGA links aren't allowed on the steam forums so I can't link to the album with all the endings

thanks for the answer, also, i guess links shortener are FTW, or else, just inbox me via friend chat, i'll let you add me if you want
Danny Dataly Mar 18, 2018 @ 1:52pm 
I encoded it in base64
aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56LyNGIWtObGxuYkpaIUhsRngwSG1SU1FWVGdkWExacW9aVWc=
All you need to do is decode it through a webpage and you'll get the link

All in all it's a tiresome process which you have no way of skipping or making any faster, you just need to keep your thumb on the A button for 10 hours straight while doing something else if you want to check out the actual ending and get all the achievements
NoMoreSpearows Mar 18, 2018 @ 2:09pm 
Knowing Suda and his tendency to include commentary on trends in video games in his works, I think the entirety of black out is supposed to be a parody of people who claim that either A, there is no replayability in visual novels, or B, people demand that VNs have multiple endings. In typical Suda fashion, he takes it to ridiculous proportions, and if you're stupid enough to go through with everything, you get a smart little wink for your ridiculous dedication.
boxythecat Mar 18, 2018 @ 3:26pm 
I have to wonder whether this was at all part of the original release. It's almost insulting, too much for me to think it was Suda's idea. Yuki I wonder about too since it took place in 2017 but at least that was consistent with the tone.
Mar 18, 2018 @ 4:14pm 
I think Suda just wanted to have the ending of the series to be super tedious and horrible in a hilarious way. A bit like FSR.
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Danny Dataly Mar 18, 2018 @ 4:50pm 
The ending is clearly satire, yes. Making certain game sections tedious on porpouse is also present in Flower, Sun and Rain (in which there's a recurring joke about having to run around everywhere, and a whole chapter dedicated to literally running back and forth) and No More Heroes (in which a chapter is just one long boring corridor which culminates in having your cool bossfight stolen by someone else). However I think the point would have still been made if I didn't have to skip through 5 minutes of text each time to get a different joke ending, and it would have made it funnier. Some of the joke endings are quite funny, but I did not get the full effect at all since I was listening to something else in the background while pushing the same button for five minutes each and every single time in between them, which I would assume is what everyone who isn't a complete sociopath did. A skip button would have solved all of that in one second and I'm baffled they wouldn't implement something so elementary in a 2018 release.

Hell, even when FSR had basically the same joke, the remake at least showed some restraint by implementing an unlockable fast run which makes it go a lot faster.

Also, replying to boxy, whiteout, blackout and yuki are all original scenarios which were not included in the original release. However I believe blackout to be intentionally written the way it is instead of blaming it on the passage of time, considering that whiteout and yuki hardly look out of place. Yuki even bookends the series in a way that reminds me of the very early twilight syndrome games even (it has to do with a teenage girl going after ghosts after all).

Meanwhile blackout takes a sledgehammer to the fourth wall for 10 hours, which culminates in the true ending, in which Kamui basically leaves the game world to speak to the player directly.

While I really like the idea and I want to say that I get it, I really can't see the downside in being able to just press B and skip all the dialogues in a few seconds. Going through the joke endings would have still been tedious enough to make the point, but at least I'd be browsing through original content each time instead of having to put up with the intro dialogue each and every time. Five minutes per run amount to 500 minutes of wasted time which is 8 hours and 20 minutes, which is just unacceptable. I really wouldn't want the game to end in any other way then a fourth wall nuking, but I think it could have been implemented better.

The best part about this for me is that I'm never ever going to have to do that again, which will make replays more bearable. Even if I wanted to go through all the joke endings again, I can now do that in 10 minutes thanks to the screenshots.
accro au porno Mar 19, 2018 @ 2:02am 
I was really hoping this was a joke and i feel relieved now. Thanks for the screenshots Xed51 !

I pretty much liked every additional endings in the game, it adds a little something that is pretty cool.

The only thing that game missed was a new musical theme for its character and events (i guess Shiroyabu has one, Osato and Tsuki also have one too i guess...)
Like they used a remix of Mikumo for the key appraiser store.

It felt like when i first played Borderlands 2 after Borderlands 1, i got the game day one and launched it right away. Damn, that felt good, but that was really different from the first one. which is not a bad thing, but it was way too different and felt like a whole different universe. New graphics, music, user interface...:steamhappy:

But I guess the 25th Ward is way more different that the 24th one after all.
Steyr Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Uehara Kamui:
Originally posted by GHBeau salaud:
Do these ends actually mean something ? I've been completing 4 of them since i unlocked black out. Opening my third eye, talking with Shiroyabu, exploding like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and kill Aoyama and Akama.

It always sounds like some meta kind of ♥♥♥♥ and it's also really strange and really "off" the game.

Someone wants to talk about these ? Also, is there someone here who tried to complete all of them ? I want to believe in the net.
All 100 endings are just joke endings where stupid things happen, some of them have references to other Suda titles or other games altogether (there is one which references Hotline Miami) and a few of them may give some hints in regards of the events of the actual game (mostly dealing with Shiroyabu), but as a whole they're mostly unimportant.

There is a sort of true ending if you manage to get all 100 which will play out every time you replay the chapter from that point onward; unfortunately this process takes around 10 hours and it's excruciating, I understand the implied joke that it's boring on porpouse but I wish there was some way to fast skip dialogues, the silver case games must be the only visual novels I ever played without a turbo skip option. I did enjoy the true ending but not the process that took me there. (Do not expect any mind blowing revelations; it's more of a thematic coda to the series, the entire final chapter is basically a huge fourth wall break with several nukes)

Either way I screencapped and uploaded all 100 joke endings in case anyone ever feels like re-reading them without going through the endless pain of replaying the chapter over and over; Still, you're gonna have to do it if you want to see the actual final scene of the game.

Fun fact: the ps4 version has a bunch of different endings compared to the PC one, referencing both Gundam and Spider-man instead of Batman

EDIT: it just came to my attention that MEGA links aren't allowed on the steam forums so I can't link to the album with all the endings

I'm actually going through the 100 endings on PS4 right now (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Suda, this really IS worse than the running chapter in FSR) and the ending choices there reference Batman instead of Gundam/Spider-man. Maybe it's a regional thing, i dunno.
Danny Dataly Mar 22, 2018 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by The BIG Gamer guy:
Originally posted by Uehara Kamui:
All 100 endings are just joke endings where stupid things happen, some of them have references to other Suda titles or other games altogether (there is one which references Hotline Miami) and a few of them may give some hints in regards of the events of the actual game (mostly dealing with Shiroyabu), but as a whole they're mostly unimportant.

There is a sort of true ending if you manage to get all 100 which will play out every time you replay the chapter from that point onward; unfortunately this process takes around 10 hours and it's excruciating, I understand the implied joke that it's boring on porpouse but I wish there was some way to fast skip dialogues, the silver case games must be the only visual novels I ever played without a turbo skip option. I did enjoy the true ending but not the process that took me there. (Do not expect any mind blowing revelations; it's more of a thematic coda to the series, the entire final chapter is basically a huge fourth wall break with several nukes)

Either way I screencapped and uploaded all 100 joke endings in case anyone ever feels like re-reading them without going through the endless pain of replaying the chapter over and over; Still, you're gonna have to do it if you want to see the actual final scene of the game.

Fun fact: the ps4 version has a bunch of different endings compared to the PC one, referencing both Gundam and Spider-man instead of Batman

EDIT: it just came to my attention that MEGA links aren't allowed on the steam forums so I can't link to the album with all the endings

I'm actually going through the 100 endings on PS4 right now (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Suda, this really IS worse than the running chapter in FSR) and the ending choices there reference Batman instead of Gundam/Spider-man. Maybe it's a regional thing, i dunno.

Yeah ok, sorry for my misunderstandment then. I've seen PS4 ending lists floating around which included spiderman and gundam quotes, and I assumed it was a console difference. Maybe it's one way in the US and one way in europe, who knows.
Steyr Mar 23, 2018 @ 12:16pm 
After finally managing to grind my way through the 100 ending, i'd say that it was overall worth it. Lots of the endings were entertaining in their own right, and the final message at the end was worth it too. Although it seems like an odd time to change the 50,000 yen gag running through the series by localizing it into 500 bucks.
NoMoreSpearows Mar 23, 2018 @ 6:03pm 
It SHOULD be the "non-localized" option, at least on Steam. Are you up to date patch-wise?
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