Roboquest
High cpu temps
any tips on how to lower my cpu temps on this game, for some reason i can run almost all games and AAA games under 70, my comfort zone, i had ryzen 7 and radeon 5700x and liquid cooling and this game is always 70-80C why? poor optimisation? or am i missing something, all settings set to low and 100fps cap.
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I have a 5800X and a Zalman CNPS20X cooler, it is much like a Noctua nh-d15 in terms of performance and the CPU is mostly at 67-70 degrees c.

Although my GPU (6800XT) is a much cooler 55 degrees c and I am playing at 4K ultra.
I also have two 200mm fans in front of my case as well.

I don't really think 80c degrees is a problem though, if you don't like it you don't need an AIO perse. You can also just get a huge air cooler and make sure to get big fans in the front and back to create an air tunnel.

Oh yeah and I capped the FPS with the driver to 75 btw.
Отредактировано Alastres; 13 сен. 2024 г. в 1:05
++ game could run better
Im running a 7950x3d and a 4090 in a custom loop, 2x 360 rads and 2x 480 rads with pushpull fanconfig.(32 total fans in the case) running the game at 4k. consistant 240hz with everything maxed out.

this is the only game i have (apart from when spacemarines 2 was released but that got fixed) thats made my cpu hit 80c. and this game makes my chip afk on 81c. (thats the platform templimit i set in bios) havent seen any other game push this chip past 72c regardless of how cpu intensive they are or how many cores they use (usually games run at about 52-65c)..

something is definately off. i didnt post this to boast about my hardware, but to tell the people who say nothing is wrong and everything is fine for them that they are infact incorrect. it might be running fine for them. but for others it aint.

my 2nd system has a 5950x and a 4090 in it(also custom watercooled). and it is the same with that.
my third system has a 5900x in it and does NOT behave this way. its super strange.
perso with my 7800x3D it go up to 63 degree,which,yeah it ain't "hot" but it run hotter than most my games,and I play stuff like nioh 2/ER/MHWorld and Rise/Xcom 2 heavy modded/Palworld and unoptimized stuff like Gundam Breaker,none of them usually reach this,hell even Monster hunter Wilds beta didn't get me above 60
I have upgraded my 5900x to a 9800x3D and this "fixed" the issue for me. Max temp I've seen with this CPU in this game was 48°C while using less than 50 watts. FPS is capped to 140.
Отредактировано Sharkinator; 17 дек. 2024 г. в 10:46
Yeah ever since the most recent update my computers been running hotter on the game
As long as it doesn't reach throttling temperatures, I personally wouldn't care. It's only an issue if your cooling can't keep up with it but at that point you have greater issues.

For ex. Ryzen 9 7950X3D has TJMax of 89C, you won't damage it since it's designed to operate comfortably between 80-90c without anything bad happening.

Some games just like to push more CPU than others which is why you see increased temperatures in Roboquest, can't really say why it does it as I'm not the developer, nor a programmer who ever used Unreal Engine but I'm pretty sure it has to be constantly hammering away at CPU for it to get grumpy.

Something needs to process enemy logic after all and it won't be your GPU, it will be your CPU. Even if it's just single-core, Ryzen will clock itself as high as the thermal capacity allows it which results in high temperatures. It's normal and how they were designed to function, they ended up improving it with AM5 releases.
Mine has jumped up from 86c to now 98c when i play :/
Автор сообщения: Mr. Rubber Ducky
As long as it doesn't reach throttling temperatures, I personally wouldn't care. It's only an issue if your cooling can't keep up with it but at that point you have greater issues.

For ex. Ryzen 9 7950X3D has TJMax of 89C, you won't damage it since it's designed to operate comfortably between 80-90c without anything bad happening.

Some games just like to push more CPU than others which is why you see increased temperatures in Roboquest, can't really say why it does it as I'm not the developer, nor a programmer who ever used Unreal Engine but I'm pretty sure it has to be constantly hammering away at CPU for it to get grumpy.

Something needs to process enemy logic after all and it won't be your GPU, it will be your CPU. Even if it's just single-core, Ryzen will clock itself as high as the thermal capacity allows it which results in high temperatures. It's normal and how they were designed to function, they ended up improving it with AM5 releases.
Except that literally isn't the reality. Ryzen processers do not runaway without load that justifies it. There is NOTHING roboquest is doing that should be hammering CPU like that, even single-core. Furthermore, Ryzen cpus, even the X3d chips, CANNOT produce that much heat with just a single core being hammered. Heat requires power. That single core can only take so much voltage, no matter how high it's clocked.

This idea that abnormally high temperatures should be ignored just because it isn't outside spec yet is patently insane. Especially when other uses that have far more cause to hammer the CPU, aren't spiking the temps anywhere near as high. Even if we aren't talking about how it damages overall lifetime of part or other such issues, it is still unnecessarily wasteful of power, and power bills aren't getting smaller as is.
It is noticeable that not everyone is affected, even if they have the same CPU. It looks like it only affects Ryzen CPUs. There must be something to it. Something that sets this game apart from other Unreal Engine games. It's just a strange conundrum. I'm not even blaming the developer here. It would just be nice to find out what's causing it.
If I can add my little bit on this subject:
I tried using HWmonitor to try to see what is happening because again we don't see a high CPU usage but it does run hotter.

I've noticed that for example my AMD 7900x:
- Runs at around 40 C when idling and taking about 45w
- Runs at around 85 C when precompiling shaders at the opening of a game (example The Finals) taking about 150w
- Runs at around 74-76C in the basecamp in Roboquest taking about 80w

So from what I see, the game isn't like taking a lot of power from the CPU but it still generates a lot of heat. I'm not that good in the understanding of how a computer works (or a CPU precisely) but I'm roughly guessing that something in that game must be heavily targeting the L2/L3 caches or simply send more complex instructions then most regular games. Might be something with the game engine as well!
Roboquest has tendency to push all cores at random, though it at most uses two by the looks of it. That's why you see heat increase to begin with even if CPU utilization is low. (66-69C on Core0-Core7 on my R7 5800X, capping it to four cores makes it use two first ones at the cost of performance. Core0-Core1 went to 70C+, HWInfo reported 6 avg cores max used by Roboquest so there's that.)

If you combine with the fact that Ryzen pushes itself to 4.85GHz at least in case of my CPU, it quickly adds up.

Though still, I only see 20W increase in terms of CPU power draw. People need to keep in mind that whatever you have currently running on PC (Discord, Spotify etc.) will also add to the power draw.

I suppose some multi-core shenanigans going wrong or maybe something to do with core affinity, who knows. But it is a very hungry game that for some reason always is doing something, what exactly, it is a mystery.

Though my point still stands, as long as you're not throttling or having this game on 24/7, there's nothing to worry about in grand perspective, not saying this shouldn't get fixed but more rather to ease worries of people "damaging" their equipment as a CPU can seriously take a lot more beating before anything bad happens to it.

As to that "it's not how it works" reply, well you know better so I won't bother. We can at least agree on power bills, even though I don't see anyone playing this game every single day to the point of it negatively impacting your bills.
We are still waiting for a fix on the game's god-awful CPU optimization, and it's been almost 4 years since this issue has been pointed at. I guess collabing with other games is more important than making sure people's CPUs can actually endure long enough to actually enjoy endless mode.
So funny that people are complaining about software heating up their CPU. If your CPU gets warmer than it should it's your CPU. As a broken 13900k owner I can assure you you should stop being high on copium. If thew game can make your cpu too hot it's your cpu, no software can ever cause hardware failure because of temps. Also one platform is the common denominator, most are not affected even among the same platform which is IMPOSSIBLE if it's not a hardware issue, you are all running the same code.
Автор сообщения: Skyleaf
So funny that people are complaining about software heating up their CPU. If your CPU gets warmer than it should it's your CPU. As a broken 13900k owner I can assure you you should stop being high on copium. If thew game can make your cpu too hot it's your cpu, no software can ever cause hardware failure because of temps. Also one platform is the common denominator, most are not affected even among the same platform which is IMPOSSIBLE if it's not a hardware issue, you are all running the same code.
Sounds like the copium is on your end. What with you trying to claim it's fine for a single specific game that does nothing to justify the usage, running cpus overly hot.

Quite literally, CPU running hotter than normal in one specific game = problem with that game's code. Especially when other games on the same engine, with loads that make sense to be heavier, don't ramp the cpu up like that, as well as when it is doing it while framecapped.
It does not mean there is a hardware fault, nor that people have insufficient cooling. It means that game has a code issue that is causing abnormal behavior that might be doing a little more than JUST high temps, as for temps to rise in the first place, you have to be running additional power into the silicon. Which can and will cause long term degredation.

You know, like with that 13900k you are bragging about getting nuked with? That was having failures because of abnormal voltage behavior?

JFC, people oh so quick to void themselves of basic critical thinking to jump to the defense of game devs, even after the game devs themselves acknowledged it was abnormal behavior and shouldn't be happening.
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