Final Boss Difficulty

[[EVO] Cheese]

I've been playing Coop with a friend and all of a sudden on the end boss the difficulty seems to have gone through the roof. This has turned from an enjoyable experience into a Souls Like difficulty game which is frustrating to say the least. Anyone Else experiencing this? have any tips?

[Obamanation]

There's really only 2 mechanics to the fight, just learn to dodge them and then it's just about execution.

[Darkness]

Indeed it's much harder than anything else. I think I've died 2 or 3 times with my friend when we finished the game, and it was starting to become a frustration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdg4txFw6U&t=23517s @08:14:26 and onwards we kill him

[Terepin]

The reason why it took you so many times is because you have no idea how to dodge and avoid damage. It was painful to watch. Not to mention that final boss brings absolutely nothing new to the table, all his gameplay mechanics are present throughout the entire game. The fact that you were having problems with him only shows that you didn't learn basics tactics that game was constantly trying to teach you for 8 hours straight.

In short: git gud.

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

Originally posted by Terepin:

The reason why it took you so many times is because you have no idea how to dodge and avoid damage. It was painful to watch. Not to mention that final boss brings absolutely nothing new to the table, all his gameplay mechanics are present throughout the entire game. The fact that you were having problems with him only shows that you didn't learn basics tactics that game was constantly trying to teach you for 8 hours straight.

In short: git gud.

Took long enough to a generic "git gud" fella appear.

[[EVO] Cheese]

Originally posted by Darkness:

Indeed it's much harder than anything else. I think I've died 2 or 3 times with my friend when we finished the game, and it was starting to become a frustration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdg4txFw6U&t=23517s

@08:14:26 and onwards we kill him

Funnily Enough, I actually watched your video earlier today just to see if it was us missing something. lol

[[EVO] Cheese]

Originally posted by AC:

looks like the Prince...
... was a Nightmare.

https://youtu.be/mR3jnW2kcUs

Brilliant!

[[EVO] Cheese]

Originally posted by Terepin:

The reason why it took you so many times is because you have no idea how to dodge and avoid damage. It was painful to watch. Not to mention that final boss brings absolutely nothing new to the table, all his gameplay mechanics are present throughout the entire game. The fact that you were having problems with him only shows that you didn't learn basics tactics that game was constantly trying to teach you for 8 hours straight.

In short: git gud.

As we aren't complete idiots we already know that you use the skills gained from playing the entire game as we wouldn't have made it this far!. What i'm getting annoyed with for example is when the boss does his whole teleport and move about the screen thing, one time i can dash/blink through him to avoid him, and the next time I use the dash/blink and even though i time it pretty much the same as before it kills me outright. Plus coming from playing all of the Trine games the difficulty spike from normal fights to this boss battle is insane Playing on normal and you can only take 2-3 hit before you're buggered.

Another thing that we've noticed is when you do enough damage for the prince to to his teleport move thing he does 3 of them, then after you pass that and inevitably die, you try again and get to the same point and he does 5 or 6 instead throwing the whole memorisation of his attacks out the window. You can't block the beam of light because the shadow part comes through the shield and there isn't enough time to set up light shields. And as always Amadeus is completely useless in boss fights lol.

[AuraFB]

The last boss can definitely be tricky. We've received feedback from players, with some saying it's too easy and some saying it's too difficult, so you are not alone. I used mostly Zoya to beat him during my own playthroughs, because I found grappling out of harm's way more reliable than blinking or rolling. The Nightmare Prince's Piercing Shadow technique is destructive when it hits you, but it can't keep up with sudden changes in direction, so often grappling can buy you more time. I tried to avoid going into direct melee combat with him as much as possible and just used the arrows while grappling between the two hooks to bring his HP down. It's not the fastest technique, but it can keep you from taking too much damage.

On my latest playthrough I actually beat the boss using Amadeus' box stomp on him twice when he had less than 25% of his HP left, so his techniques can be useful in the fight too, but I'd recommend resorting to boxes only when the Prince isn't moving so you're sure to hit him. Good luck!

[Mother Serpent]

I had the opposite experience. I thought it was the easier boss on the game; never even got close to dying. I simply used amadeus to blink out of danger, and any other character to attack in the windows were the boss doesn't attack...
It's funny how different playstyles result in oposite reactions.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by EVOCheeselover:

As we aren't complete idiots we already know that you use the skills gained from playing the entire game as we wouldn't have made it this far!.

No point in feeding that troll, haha... I guess I "git gud" at learning to ignore people who don't ever contribute to anything nor respect anyone.

Originally posted by EVOCheeselover:

Plus coming from playing all of the Trine games the difficulty spike from normal fights to this boss battle is insane Playing on normal and you can only take 2-3 hit before you're buggered.

That's a good point and I totally agree. Never had trouble with any bosses on all Trine games. Actually the combat here was "harder and trickier" for me, compared to the others, but still, the boss fighters were tighter in general, but the last one was indeed much harder than anything else due to being very unforgiving. Dodging abilities are actually something not well incorporated in the game, not to mention the fact that they're "secondary skills" (learned with points, not through campaign), and on most combats you don't have to restort to them at all.

Originally posted by EVOCheeselover:

And as always Amadeus is completely useless in boss fights lol.

Actually Amadeus here is great with his box smash (also secondary skill, but unlocked very early), though it can be tricky to be quick enough to do that without expoising yourself too much. After finishing the co-op gameplay, I played another day and went through a commented session, and had a breeze using Amadeus mainly on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_E2Y8-5Bhw @53:53

I definitely had a much easier time doing this compared to my earlier coop playthrough, and would definitely try to smash more bosses if I ever play the campaign again.

[AdApt*]

The difficulty was fine.

[Terepin]

Agreed.

[WinNytHepOOh]

Sorry, but this boss fight is just as annoying as the rest of the fights in Trine 4, which were the only things that bothered me about the game.

Who on earth invents a beam that doesn't just damage you but blocks your movement as well? Yes you can try to dodge but that means you lack time to actually hit back and do damage, which ofcourse you can't do in that other phase where the boss becomes invincible and charges over whole screen to insta-kill you and ignores all the constantly popping up pink barriers that ofcourse keep getting in your way. It is possible to beat the boss, but really frustrating, takes more luck and patience than anything else. I will try coop laters and propably it will be much easier there.

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

I beat him on my first try, one thing i noticed is how easy is to dodge the beams with Zoya, didnt have much success with Amadeus or Pontius, they seem to take damage. Hell, you can solo him with Zoya if you want to.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Zak-Del:

I beat him on my first try

Originally posted by Zak-Del:

you can solo him with Zoya if you want to.

Yea same here. First try and switched to Zoya once I figured out the attack pattern.

I don't see why people are finding it so difficult.

Figuring out the puzzles for the witch was more of a challenge.