HelixVision: A possible VR workaround?

[Michael]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1127310/HelixVision/

Anyone else familiar with this app? I own it, and the games that do work with it out of the box are great. Unfortunately, creating custom profiles are completely over my head. Has anyone tried creating a profile for Tempest (or willing to try)?

[Megablaster]

I own Helixvison & have had no luck getting it to run. I did get it running in *Vorpx though using the *Unity template. The star field floats out in front of you & the bullets on the *web literally *float in front of your eyes. It looks really *cool!

[Michael]

Originally posted by Megablaster:

I own Helixvison & have had no luck getting it to run. I did get it running in *Vorpx though using the *Unity template. The star field floats out in front of you & the bullets on the *web literally *float in front of your eyes. It looks really *cool!

I've been on the fence about purchasing Vorpx since it's outside of Steam. Really tempted now just from you telling me that. lol Thanks for the info!

[Michael]

Okay, I took the plunge and bought VorpX. I then found a cloud profile created for Tempest by a user named Grif3125. Is that you?

I tried it, and while yes, Tempest does run, it doesn't actually have any 3D effects of any kind. It's just a simple, flat screen with no depth, as though I were playing it on Virtual Desktop or BigScreen.

If that's not you, any idea how to edit it? I hit the delete key and played around with the sliders, but it changed nothing.

Edit: I also tried using the Unity template, and still flat as a pancake no matter how much I messed with the sliders. No visual difference between VorpX and a standard gaming theater screen.

[Megablaster]

No, that is not *me. I have not uploaded my profile for Tempest 4000. I know the profile you're referring to & it is *not in 3-D. The game just basically runs in *theater mode. You need to enable *shader authoring in Vorpx settings. You then select the *Unity profle from local profiles. Then select create a new profile based on this one. Select add file & navigate to the Tempest 4000 execute & select it. Then select apply & close. After that, with Vorpx running,you start Tempest 4000 & then hit control & end keys. This will allow you to select & adjust the shaders to your liking. You'll be doing this in VR so you'll be able to see the *effect in real time. Don't worry, it's really *user friendly & easy to do. I'm computer illiterate & I figured it out. Once you've selected the shaders to your liking just select save & quit. If it doesn't save your setting just select reload profile. Do this & you *will be satisfied with the end result. :)

[Megablaster]

Before you try to create a new profile you must delete the one you down loaded or it'll keep loading by default. If your using that as your base profile 3-d will most likely be *broken. Then you need to select *geometry 3-D for the 3-d to work. It doesn't work in the other settings. Geometry 3-D must be set to *on! If your still confused as how to do this, there are some easy how-to videos on You Tube you can watch.

[Michael]

YOU are a bloody GENIUS! THANK YOU!

Wow this is fantastic. My only problem now is deciding which combinations I like best. So much to play around with. lol

I noticed that the shader settings don't save after you exit the game. Does that mean I'll have to change the settings every time with no way for it to remember what shader combos I'm using?

Edit: Just had a thought. Do you suppose this same method could also work with Space Giraffe? Because that would be even trippier.

[Megablaster]

I've been having the same problems with the shader settings not saving properly when I exit the game. That's why I was hesitant to upload the profile. I'm planning on searching Vorpx message board with a possible solution to this. On *Space Giraffe, I've gotten it to run in *Helixvision but the shaders aren't displaying properly. I'm on the verge of finding out how to *edit the shaders in question. As soon as I figure it out. I'll let you know the steps required.

[Michael]

Originally posted by Megablaster:

I've been having the same problems with the shader settings not saving properly when I exit the game. That's why I was hesitant to upload the profile. I'm planning on searching Vorpx message board with a possible solution to this. On *Space Giraffe, I've gotten it to run in *Helixvision but the shaders aren't displaying properly. I'm on the verge of finding out how to *edit the shaders in question. As soon as I figure it out. I'll let you know the steps required.

Definitely looking forward to it! You've had more luck that I did, as I wasn't able to even get the game to launch at all in Helix.

[Megablaster]

Update: I got *Space Giraffe to run in Vorpx using the Unreal engine 3 template. It uses geometry 3-D but your limited to just 2 shaders, vertex & pixel & your 3-D options are limited. I've gotten the menus to look 3-d but not much beyond that. You might want to experiment with it & test your luck.

[Michael]

Originally posted by Megablaster:

Update: I got *Space Giraffe to run in Vorpx using the Unreal engine 3 template. It uses geometry 3-D but your limited to just 2 shaders, vertex & pixel & your 3-D options are limited. I've gotten the menus to look 3-d but not much beyond that. You might want to experiment with it & test your luck.

Thanks for the heads up. Will definitely try it out.

Overall I'm pretty disappointed with VorpX so far. Out of my entire library, Tempest is really the only one I've had any interest in that comes out half decent.

[Megablaster]

I bought Vorpx because it supported games that wouldn't run in Helixvision like *Bayonetta & some others.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Michael:

YOU are a bloody GENIUS! THANK YOU!

Wow this is fantastic. My only problem now is deciding which combinations I like best. So much to play around with. lol

I noticed that the shader settings don't save after you exit the game. Does that mean I'll have to change the settings every time with no way for it to remember what shader combos I'm using?

Edit: Just had a thought. Do you suppose this same method could also work with Space Giraffe? Because that would be even trippier.

Did you find a decent stereoscopic 3D solution running it with vorpx? I have a 3DTV and can use the tv's 2D > 3D conversion feature but it's just not the same as nvidia 3D vision.

[Megablaster]

Did you find a decent stereoscopic 3D solution running it with vorpx? I have a 3DTV and can use the tv's 2D > 3D conversion feature but it's just not the same as nvidia 3D vision. [/quote]

It runs great in Vorpx through a VR headset. I don't believe the software is capable of out putting to a 3-D TV. I could be wrong though. If you want more info on that I'd go to the Vorpx web site and question the *developer.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Megablaster:

It runs great in Vorpx through a VR headset. I don't believe the software is capable of out putting to a 3-D TV. I could be wrong though. If you want more info on that I'd go to the Vorpx web site and question the *developer.

All of my pc output goes to a 3DTV which I use as my pc monitor and I tried T4k on a different 3DTV with some interesting 2D > 3D results. Usually I use nvidia 3DTV Play with 3D Fix Manager as many games have 3D profiles. Just was curious about the 3D with VorpX since I know the developer has personal issues with the team who made Helixvision, lifelong feud kind of issues.

[Megablaster]

Originally posted by No Known Stereotype:

Originally posted by Megablaster:

It runs great in Vorpx through a VR headset. I don't believe the software is capable of out putting to a 3-D TV. I could be wrong though. If you want more info on that I'd go to the Vorpx web site and question the *developer.

All of my pc output goes to a 3DTV which I use as my pc monitor and I tried T4k on a different 3DTV with some interesting 2D > 3D results. Usually I use nvidia 3DTV Play with 3D Fix Manager as many games have 3D profiles. Just was curious about the 3D with VorpX since I know the developer has personal issues with the team who made Helixvision, lifelong feud kind of issues.

The 3-D with Vorpx is great, but as I said it's made to out put to a VR head set not a 3-D TV. Although I could be wrong. Again try checking the Vorpx web page, that's all I could tell you.