could skills in game translate to an actual drum kit???

[Anton]

i want to get in to drumming but just wanna get my feet wet before spending and arm and a leg for a kit.

[ET]

Hey, I'll quote what I posted on our Discord (https://discord.gg/paradiddle) a while ago. We have a channel called learn-to-drum on there where people share videos and discuss tips, so I'd recommend checking it out. Let me know if this answers your question or if you're curious to know more:

"So, I'm obviously biased here as the developer, but I do think you can improve your drumming skills in real life by practicing in VR using Paradiddle. If this is going to be your first time drumming though, I'd highly recommend pairing practice in Paradiddle with practicing on a pad like https://amzn.to/2tHtDMd with some real sticks. I think the physical bouncing of the stick off of a drum is an important part of drumming in real life, and even practicing with just a pad will get you started on understanding proper stick holding technique, and what it feels like when your stick bounces off of a physical surface.

With that being said, I think where Paradiddle is especially helpful when learning how to drum is that it gives you access to a full drum kit in a very convenient way (no need to get an expensive real drum kit, no need to worry about making noise, or having a dedicated physical space for your drums). When I was learning how to play (just for context, I only learned how to play on a drum kit for about a year, and then after that I played snare drums in marching band for about 4 years in college), one of the hardest things for me was the fact that I could only practice with a real kit at a studio. Especially because I practiced a lot with a single snare drum, I wasn't very confident when it came to playing my way around a whole drum set, and Paradiddle lets me experiment and play around with the whole set very easily. If you haven't seen them yet, you should take a look at the Paradiddle VR Drum Covers playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIE76wDmoW5GOS4msS5tq58HnHIZqPun2 I think this goes to show that you can play quite a lot of songs in VR, and at least in my case, I've been able to play songs on real life drums after I taught myself how to play them in VR.
Plus, there are other things you can do like use Phase Shift with Paradiddle (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udqt3JYtc6k), or use all sorts of pedals, that make the app even better in some ways when you try to learn new songs or get comfortable with playing independently across multiple drums + your feet. I hope this helps answer some of your questions!"

[illgib]

Might sound a bit too arsh, but there's no way yuo're gonna learn or study in a vr game, it can be a good way to test how you feel behind a kit, but you're essentially hitting the air, and drums are made of rebounds and stick control, you can't land a "paradiddle" when you're hitting nothing but thin air.

I'm curious to try it if there's some kind of demo, but as a drum player i can't in an way suggest to use the app to learn drum for real, like playing air guitar, you have to actually hit those heads!

The trailer is really promising though, but it seems to me no more than a polished Rock band gaming drum.

Yea, i'm a drummer, and sorry but it's what came in mind when i seen the trailer.

[Joe]

I'm not a drummer. I have a kit in my garage and I have wanted to learn to play but know next to nothing so I would to take the opposite stance with the caveat that no, its not the same, not at all. VR drumming would give you and idea but yeah, all your really doing is waving your hands in the air. You will want to actually hit some drums in real life. I can say that you can't expect to play any song a few hundred times in VR and come sit down at a real life drum kit for the first time and be as good as you are in vr. It won't work like that but VR will be a good addition to your training. I'd still suggest it. Skip a fast food, buy yourself a drum simulator and have a go.

[ET]

As I mentioned in my earlier reply, if someone wants to learn how to play the drums from scratch and they've picked up Paradiddle, I always recommend them to also pick up a practice pad and a pair of sticks to get used to the physical feeling as well. That being said, there's more to drumming than the physical surfaces. You can develop your sense of rhythm, hand-foot independence and get more comfortable playing around the set just fine in VR. I've taught myself how to play new songs in VR and gone back to play them on a real kit without any issues

The main benefit is that it's much easier to practice in VR than in real life because of factors like noise, cost and the space required for a kit. Even if the skill overlap between real life and VR isn't 100%, taking a look at any of the drum covers here (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIE76wDmoW5GOS4msS5tq58HnHIZqPun2) should make it clear that there is indeed a skill overlap. So you're likely to get a lot more practice in with Paradiddle if you can't afford a kit or aren't able to have one in your apartment.

An example user I like to point out is ElNeax, one of our more active users who has more than 100 hours in the app. He's never played real drums before, and this was his latest VR drum cover: https://youtu.be/NboYRODjXGo. Sure, it would take a little bit of adjusting, but after watching that and his other covers, I believe that he could absolutely play on a real kit.

[Charleyyy]

one thing you most certainly can practice with paradiddle is the coordination of your limbs, since it is not easy to move them rhytmically and independently by default. I personally have trouble "decoupling" my right arm (hi-hat) from my right foot (bass drum).