Why are people so upset?

[IAmTiiX]

I see a lot of people around here saying that this game is "abandoned" by the devs and that this (the complete edition) is just a cash grab, which might be true, making games does cost money after all.

The thing is, I remember following the development of this game up until release, and I remember the devs saying that this wasn't going to be a live-service game. The game will come out and that will be it. Obviously there's the Worldslayer DLC as well, but still, as far as I'm aware, the game is a full and complete game, and the devs have moved on to working on their next project long ago, which is to be expected. The game wasn't exactly a hit when it came out.

So can someone explain to me why people consider this an "abandoned" game?

[potato]

Originally posted by IAmTiiX:

So can someone explain to me why people consider this an "abandoned" game?

i dunno, i guess people wanna be milked for 10+ years like some games do

[Astelan]

I really wanted to see what was going to happen at the end of the trials part of the game. Maybe eventually there will be an Outriders 2 that continues on from that point.

[IAmTiiX]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

a lot of bugs, no basic QOL. no communication, bloody online only which leads to disconnects

Fair enough

[Modest Mauser]

Originally posted by Astelan:

I really wanted to see what was going to happen at the end of the trials part of the game. Maybe eventually there will be an Outriders 2 that continues on from that point.

I liked Outriders just fine for the most part. I don't think it warrants another game when they couldn't even figure out how to end the first one. "Welp, better rush the ending because we don't know how to write a story about a captivating world you'd never been to before, just put space Hitler in and make him build an alien death camp. People still think Hitler is cool, right?"

[Mike]

I've noticed that in this modern age gaming commentary people will use outright lies to fuel their hatred for something and the talk around Outriders is the same. The game does have flaws (as all games do), but many people's perception of this game is just based on lies.

This game was 100% Marketed as a looter shooter that was NOT live service (like BL1-2), so why people still look at the game like its "live service" makes no sense to me.

I would argue that if the launch was smoother, they did the expansions better and added more replayablility, this game would have been left in a really good state with a decent playerbase,. However, before the complete edition of the game the players were left with a $40 DLC that was a fraction of the size of the full priced game and did not really offer the replay-ability people expected it to have.

The game, story, concept, gameplay, loot, builds...etc are great but the execution was what led many players to dropping this game which is sad. I highly enjoyed the game but the $40 DLC was what made me stop playing the game, also when they nerfed my week one build it left a bad taste in my mouth. Now that the DLC is at a much more reasonable price I may finally pick it up and enjoy a full play-through again including the DLC.

[IAmTiiX]

Originally posted by Mike:

This game was 100% Marketed as a looter shooter that was NOT live service (like BL1-2), so why people still look at the game like its "live service" makes no sense to me.

For sure, I feel like this is super common these days.

With everything being digital and always online, and with the ability to push patches and content by simply uploading the content to a cloud, it's almost become the expectation that every game is live service, even if they aren't marketed as such. If a game comes out and doesn't get any updates, it's automatically deemed "dead" or "abandoned by the devs", rather than just "released as a complete product", which is kinda sad.

[Mike]

Originally posted by IAmTiiX:

Originally posted by Mike:

This game was 100% Marketed as a looter shooter that was NOT live service (like BL1-2), so why people still look at the game like its "live service" makes no sense to me.

For sure, I feel like this is super common these days.

With everything being digital and always online, and with the ability to push patches and content by simply uploading the content to a cloud, it's almost become the expectation that every game is live service, even if they aren't marketed as such. If a game comes out and doesn't get any updates, it's automatically deemed "dead" or "abandoned by the devs", rather than just "released as a complete product", which is kinda sad.

The worse part is that everyone HATES "live service games" yet like you said most modern games that release now a days by definition ARE live service in nature, because most games are constantly patched, updated, get content years after release...etc.

I really can't take gaming commentary serious anymore because most people have double standards, where in one instance something is ok and should be praised, and in another it is the worsting thing every and should be "protested" lol.

I just enjoy the games I like and say to heck with whatever anyone else is saying.

[IAmTiiX]

Originally posted by Mike:

I just enjoy the games I like and say to heck with whatever anyone else is saying.

Amen, brother.

[Modest Mauser]

Originally posted by Mike:

I would argue that if the launch was smoother, they did the expansions better and added more replayablility, this game would have been left in a really good state with a decent playerbase,. However, before the complete edition of the game the players were left with a $40 DLC that was a fraction of the size of the full priced game and did not really offer the replay-ability people expected it to have.

So, basically if they did everything differently it'd be a better game? I honestly can't argue with that. I did like the game okay, but it did have its share of problems.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Modest Mauser:

Originally posted by Mike:

I would argue that if the launch was smoother, they did the expansions better and added more replayablility, this game would have been left in a really good state with a decent playerbase,. However, before the complete edition of the game the players were left with a $40 DLC that was a fraction of the size of the full priced game and did not really offer the replay-ability people expected it to have.

So, basically if they did everything differently it'd be a better game? I honestly can't argue with that. I did like the game okay, but it did have its share of problems.

No not "try everything differently" lol, just a smoother launch and more replayablility with the endgame is really all this game needed. The core combat, gear, build variety,...etc was great and I would have liked this be the start of a new looter shooter franchise to rival the borderlands series, but Square Enix made sure that was not happening by dropping most of their western studios lol.

I like the game enough to put 120+ hours just the base game and I may even get the DLC and do another fresh playthrough now that its at a reasonable price. Its just if this game did not have that rocky start (that lasted way too long) and the people thinking it was a live service game, when it was not, I feel the possibility of an Outriders 2 would have been much higher then it is looking now.

[ULTRA]

They're having mental discomfort from the fact that they bought a game which was obviously poo poo and now it's poo poo

[~Lazy_Eggs~]

the game came out unfinished and was never finished. It's barely playable and online coop introduces bugs that tend to waste your time and make you rage.

Other than that it's a fun game besides all the frustrations. I would say 80% fun 20% frustrated on average, but im sure there are those that is the complete inverse.

[Purple Sauce]

The game released unstable as hell and unfinished. Then, as a "thank you" they nerfed a ton of **** while not fixing the problems the game has. This is a looter shooter that doesn't give you loot because reasons. They doubled the drop rate but 0 x infinity is still zero 😂 They released a DLC that costs almost as much as the base game while having less content than a lot of normal DLCs have. Hhmmmm, I wonder why people aren't happy, I just can't put my finger on it. . .

[IAmTiiX]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

The game released unstable as hell and unfinished. Then, as a "thank you" they nerfed a ton of **** while not fixing the problems the game has. This is a looter shooter that doesn't give you loot because reasons. They doubled the drop rate but 0 x infinity is still zero 😂 They released a DLC that costs almost as much as the base game while having less content than a lot of normal DLCs have. Hhmmmm, I wonder why people aren't happy, I just can't put my finger on it. . .

I can't speak for the current state of the game, but I played just over half of the game with a couple of friends right after Worldslayer came out, and I found it pretty enjoyable. No bugs that I can remember, and there was plenty of loot. Even got a couple of legendaries, and we didn't even get to end game.

But hey, if the game is still broken, then fair enough.

[maxximux2010]

How can I put this
demo came out and was perfect. 
full game came out, and oh boy 
MP was not working at all. 
Crossplay is not working. 
missing loot 
bugs after bugs
crashes after crashes
performance issues ..
They lost 70% of the player base...
1y later ..
They ''fixed'' old bugs with the new orizon but brought new bugs with it. 
progression locks bugs 
missing gear again.
MP is still not working. 
Even with all that, players came back, but then ♥♥♥♥ hit the fan.....
worldslayer came out..
for new players game+dlc 50 bucks..
dlc for old players that stick around taking all their crap but still showing support 40 bucks....
aka the same price as the full game again 
making players say F.U.,
and so the game went from 60/70% to a 90+% drop.
leaving the game a ghost town, resulting in them abandoning the game to die a slow, painful death.

thats the sad truth about outriders