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Sport Aug 1, 2022 @ 12:11pm
My pyro is useless right now
Before the Nerfs, My pyro (Popcorn Build) could clear Tier 32 with little problems. Now I die in the first Anomaly Trail, and I haven't made it past Gorefeather yet. I just can't understand how PCF could mess up my Pyro so bad after so many hours of running expeditions. It took the fun out of the game for sure and it's really hard to log on now. So, anybody have any suggestions on how to change my Pyro so I can use him again. Good job PCF
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Morqai Aug 1, 2022 @ 12:55pm 
I think many players feel like you do with their builds fugged up, I wish I could say something comforting but i just can not.
Boris The Blade Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:28pm 
They simply went too far with all the nerf's, I just gave up on my Apoc Tier 37 Pyro for the exact same reason, maybe the dev's will learn when their numbers drop to single digits.....
Seraduna Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
new meta for pyro is eruption with lava lich set, just give it a shot, works like a charm
Boris The Blade Aug 1, 2022 @ 3:32pm 
Sorry but Eruption build with LL set sucks now after all the nerf's.
H3llF!r3 Aug 1, 2022 @ 5:37pm 
welcome to outriders :)
Viper Aug 1, 2022 @ 6:40pm 
If you can still play the game and beat enemies then sorry they did not go to far. It sucks is an epic exaggeration.
Last edited by Viper; Aug 1, 2022 @ 6:41pm
jvjd Aug 1, 2022 @ 11:26pm 
Yeah my pyro suffers the same- I do not play it now. I just don't find any other build fun with Pyro. I will stick with the other 3 for now
Boris The Blade Aug 1, 2022 @ 11:33pm 
Compared to what it was doing pre nerf it sure as hell sucks now, the add clear is fine but the single target damage is garbage now.
Darth_Angeal Aug 2, 2022 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Boris The Blade:
Compared to what it was doing pre nerf it sure as hell sucks now, the add clear is fine but the single target damage is garbage now.

Since when should a full AOE skill-set be super strong against single-targets aka bosses?!

I´m still convinced that like 90% of all players, who moan about nerfs (mostly bug-fixes), have never used the system by their own. They rely on something broken someone else found out, and of course it´s gonna get nerfed when it uses buggy skills or is like 50% more powerful than anything else in the game. Then they start to moan about it since they don´t know what to do now.
I don´t know... trying out new builds by yourself? That´s how the game works and it´s 100% more fun than "Open Google -> search for builds -> Copy&Paste".

And i highly doubt that the "Popcorn-build" is useless now. If you struggle staying alive then go for more lifeleech, or change 1 perk into a defensive one. I´m sure it won´t hurt that hard, if it helps to stay alive.
Viper Aug 2, 2022 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Boris The Blade:
Compared to what it was doing pre nerf it sure as hell sucks now, the add clear is fine but the single target damage is garbage now.
SO maybe you want a different game then the developers do. They nerfed it because it was to OP. And not balanced with other builds.
Akheira Aug 2, 2022 @ 12:49pm 
Like I wrote in one discussion like this, my dmg was nerfed but I got dmg with burning changes (boost) so my dmg is like:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2843924910
But I have build like:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2839256730
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2843896778
Problem for me is that for Eruption I have 7/15 mods and whole set. If I use 7 mods also for heatwave/Faser my dmg will be higher. If I change Eruption for something I could improve Heatwave/Faser with more mods and use unique helmet... There aren't good sets for my build, soo another only good set is just Acari.

RN it's Eruption (7), Heatwave (1), Faser (3), rest are support like (4 - Not impressed, stare into the barrel, diffuse, dmg absorber)
Last edited by Akheira; Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:54pm
Boris The Blade Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
FASER beam got nerfed worse than Eruption did so have fun trying to get that build working.
Akheira Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Boris The Blade:
FASER beam got nerfed worse than Eruption did so have fun trying to get that build working.
Faser beam got less dmg, but apply BURN to all enemies,... and burn got boost. I started game with pyro based on BURN, not dmg with skills.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2843930566
195k AP, 175% status

Changed my post up, for my last expedition on higher tiers (my AT is lower).
Last edited by Akheira; Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:58pm
Sport Aug 2, 2022 @ 3:22pm 
@ Darth Angeal.. Thank You for all your wonderful suggestions, your a Gem. When I say I can't get past Gorefeather or an Arbitor now I mean it. I have put a Mitigation Mod in and have 22 points in the Defense Tree, still not a big help. I have an idea! I am sending out an invitation tro PCF to Log-In to my Steam account and play my Pyro. Like to see if it works as intended or I am exaggerating. Doesn't matter anymore going start jplaying Diablo 4 beta.
Akheira Aug 2, 2022 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Sport:
@ Darth Angeal.. Thank You for all your wonderful suggestions, your a Gem. When I say I can't get past Gorefeather or an Arbitor now I mean it. I have put a Mitigation Mod in and have 22 points in the Defense Tree, still not a big help. I have an idea! I am sending out an invitation tro PCF to Log-In to my Steam account and play my Pyro. Like to see if it works as intended or I am exaggerating. Doesn't matter anymore going start jplaying Diablo 4 beta.
These are def mods - Not impressed (-25% from Elites), diffuse (armor, +50% res for run), dmg absorber (armor, +10% res).

Change points for defense tree cannot help, because U lower your dmg output. SO it means lower dmg, lower leech from skills,... SOo if U would like to survive Gorefeather/Arbiter U should have at least 1 ability up (to receive lifes from leech)...
(FOR ANOMALY build).

But it always means - avoid red zones on ground. Yeah on Gorefeather it's harder because he's up. But skills like Eruption, Faser can hit.
Last edited by Akheira; Aug 2, 2022 @ 3:39pm
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