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DinoTiTromba 2021 年 4 月 9 日 下午 3:52
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Give me a refund or revert the nerfs
So I played a technomancer bullet poison build and really liked it in the endgame, then for work reason couldn't play for around 3 days... Today i log-in and I find a 2.3Gb patch, business as usual, proceed to do the usual t14 warmup run of a random map and kaboom, half of the damage gone and it's no longer fun to run any map to farm anything... especially at t15, feels like s**t after playing properly for a while.

Read patch notes, hoping for some other build buffs... and NO WTF is this s**t

It would be acceptable if it was a free-to-play-pay-per-win money grab FB game, seriously I paid 60Eur for a game which took away the fun factor, I'm not a no-lifer streamer for *** sake, I play occasionally for the fun of it and this being taken away after a patch because the devs deem something OP is just bull**t

Up until this point the progress for me felt reasonably balanced, and I felt like i had a goal towards which I was slowly progressing by incremental upgrades, today It just feels bad since I can't even solo a t14 with my above average gear...

WTF did I pay for ? [PS Single player story kinda fine, endgame got ruined for me]

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Let me clarify by adding a few thoughts after following with the discussion

- I've tolerated the launch server fires and "can" understand it to a certain degree, being a software developer myself
- I had my "dose" of fun, was it worth 60Eur? Maybe yes maybe not
- I was having fun with the game prior to the nerfs, I'm not having fun anymore
- The fun was destroyed after they taken my money and letting me consume some of the endgame content, similar to bait and switch

THIS IS A RANT POST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE DEVELOPERS MADE A BAD DECISION ABOUT NERFING SOMETHING PEOPLE WERE ENJOYING AND ARTIFICIALLY TRYING TO EXTEND THE SHALLOW END-GAME, INSTEAD OF FIXING S***T AND ADDING EXTRA CONTENT
最后由 DinoTiTromba 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 10 日 上午 5:45
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DinoTiTromba 2021 年 4 月 10 日 上午 11:00 
引用自 CyberDown
agree that nerfing the fun classes people want to play rather than fixing the unpopular classes is the lowest form of balance and a sign of poor leadership.

disagree that you should get refunds for patch outcomes.

anyone think to wait on buying highly hyped AAA games for a bit and let the devs patch and update, maybe wait for a price break? No? Just gonna keep preordering and then getting upset launch week? ok....

Well you're right, I'm not hoping to get a refund, and you're right as well no more pre-orders from me for any company, got burned twice in a row now (Cyberpunk anyone?); however my point still stands, it was a s**t move to nerf the only half decent build that could gold most t14 maps after letting players use it for a week. In my personal case It was a choice I made at release and didn't know it was that good, now I just lost motivation to play the game after the main story and reaching t14-t15 and seeing 60 hours to build a decent character go to the bin because it was OP.
Zethell 2021 年 4 月 10 日 上午 11:02 
You're not entitled to a refund over balance changes snowflake.
Encore 2021 年 4 月 10 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 DinoTiTromba
引用自 CyberDown
agree that nerfing the fun classes people want to play rather than fixing the unpopular classes is the lowest form of balance and a sign of poor leadership.

disagree that you should get refunds for patch outcomes.

anyone think to wait on buying highly hyped AAA games for a bit and let the devs patch and update, maybe wait for a price break? No? Just gonna keep preordering and then getting upset launch week? ok....

Well you're right, I'm not hoping to get a refund, and you're right as well no more pre-orders from me for any company, got burned twice in a row now (Cyberpunk anyone?); however my point still stands, it was a s**t move to nerf the only half decent build that could gold most t14 maps after letting players use it for a week. In my personal case It was a choice I made at release and didn't know it was that good, now I just lost motivation to play the game after the main story and reaching t14-t15 and seeing 60 hours to build a decent character go to the bin because it was OP.
i dunno, i saw cyberpunk from mile away, no one move release 4 times just like that.
With outriders tho i saw alpha, i liked it, i preordered it. No regrets so far, tho i would like more stable servers.
The Time Traveler 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 12:31 
引用自 Rager
引用自 Shadow
yea. it was overpowered tho. undeniably so. maybe there is a new "good build" for techno. just redo your skill page layout. try new things.

So what it was op? It was fun, that is what matter if a OP build made the game fun, What happens when other builds reach that level?

If you want to nerf it fine, but buff the other builds because let me tell you. This game is trash.
lol ok. then leave the forum and stop ranting and wasting your time and everyone elses.
DinoTiTromba 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 12:36 
引用自 Shadow
引用自 Rager

So what it was op? It was fun, that is what matter if a OP build made the game fun, What happens when other builds reach that level?

If you want to nerf it fine, but buff the other builds because let me tell you. This game is trash.
lol ok. then leave the forum and stop ranting and wasting your time and everyone elses.

Since we bought a product and it was broken (even better got broken after we bought it) we have every right to brag and complain about it
Trying to aim 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 12:40 
You seriously whining about the nerfs? lmao, look at the other classes then... this guy has no clue techno is still being the top tier god class atm..
Andy 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 2:39 
100% agree, game just doesn't feel fun after last patch, the nerf to my trickster was bad enough but now its almost impossible for me to get gold times on most expeditions on CT12. Good job ruining your own game devs, even after the abysmal launch you go and do this a week later. What a bunch of clowns
最后由 Andy 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 5:34
Xeph The Tamagotchi 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 2:43 
They get rid of the "meta" ez mode and Ppl lose their ♥♥♥♥. Come up with your own build, I'm not having Any issues end game and I never used the bullet skills. I knew they would be nerfed. It happeneds in every game from borderlands 3 to mmos. Get use to it.
Handbanana 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 3:51 
引用自 BronzeBomber
waaaah Your build was nerfed. You can change your build at anytime for free. Git Gud.

There are no other viable buiilds. Trickster had and has one total viable build. All others are garbage. Same for techno and devastator. I think pyro might be the only class in the game with two possible end game meta build but one requires a full legendary set and perfect rolls and it still might not work.
Artean 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 3:54 
Yeszzz, let the nerd rage flow. Embrace it. Spit out your hatred. You are... ENTITLED.
Enundr 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 3:55 
引用自 MOSS-BurningUp
If you have to rely on 1 build that people probably knew was gonna getnerfed anyway...you're just bad at these games.

It's like complaining about the Wraith getting nerfed after Evolve came out.
ever consider these builds are popular BECAUSE the other skills outright just sucked later on? like not scaling well at all in comparison? they didnt even try balancing they just went straight up nerf hammer like modern day wow devs. if we wanted to deal with that their are plenty of games for that as is.
Enundr 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 3:57 
引用自 BronzeBomber
waaaah Your build was nerfed. You can change your build at anytime for free. Git Gud.
now if only those other skills were even remotely good......its not a git gud situation its a we want actual balance not a blind nerf hammer balance.
effecT 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 3:59 
Sorry - I didn't even read the post of the Threadowner.
I just ROFL 'cause of the title.

"Give me refund or reverse the nerf" what the f.... are ppl really that stupid or are there only trolls left?
Kuhnives 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 4:18 
Cry more cause they balanced the game man. Balancing happens. Doesnt mean you get to cry and feel like you are owed something. Adapt or leave.
Sal UK 2021 年 4 月 10 日 下午 4:30 
I am pretty sure they had in house testers that thought it was fine the way it was, After all it is only a 3 man squad,so they should have known how it would play out. Its a PVE game and we should be able to play the way we want, Not be dictated too, by dev's on how they think we should play.
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