Fire power Techno is in awful state after the nerf.

[Resist]

Not only it's paper thin and can get dunked by small adds or riflemen, but it also does very low dps. It's a glass cannon, without being much of a cannon. I have 96k tactical AR with full Long range/Close range gear and approriate mods. There is no way to compete with Trickster or even dps Pyro,
On the other hand the sniper build is beyond bad and the 5 second CD on Charged Gunchamber is ridicilous.
The only useful way left for fire power Techno is Absolute zero, with double cryo turret and 3 set Monarch. At least I'm doing some CC and outdps Devos.

[BuddyGuy]

It is taking me a while to get an Anomaly set :/

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Devs have some balancing to do. Too many mods are just plain terrible. In a game that is supposed to reward DPS. Some playstyles are punished. It's more about how the DEVs want you to play. Legend set bonuses are just that. Build diversity is punished. Who plays the middle tree ever? Lower tree is often too difficult to make work as opposed to the top tree. This game is about DPS and it rewards more and more dmg. Best bet for legends is exp gold period. Otherwise you wont get. The initial quests drop the same useless crap a far as ive seen. The freeze sniper rifle. LOL that has dropeed for me too many times it ♥♥♥♥ weapon. In this game you either dps or debuff. SUrvivability builds dont exist and are completely secondary. You get as much survive as you neeed that's it. All of this is the DEVs fault. They reward conformity and dps and MEME builds. THey link the class tree like a tree that branches all around. LOL WHO actually does that. Devs really dropped the ball here.

[ShadowArcanist]

I do not experience the same. My techno tears stuff up when my bullet skill is up and all my shots become crits and the damage stacks after three kills. But then the pyro AOE fries all my ammo and THEN I experience what you have. :D

[SneakyErvin]

No bigger issues with FP techno. Yes it is a glasscannon, but that was my own choice, it still clears CT15 effortlessly. Running Amber Vault with Fortress added, went with 2x ammo replenish mods instead of 1 + Damage Absorber, this way every single trash more or less tops off my mag.

Will test out how it adds up with Borealis set when (if) I get the pants.

[ShadowArcanist]

Originally posted by NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯:

SUrvivability builds dont exist and are completely secondary.

I don't know. My AP Devastator rarely dies and tanks every boss toe to toe. But the same thing that heals me is the same thing that damages so I am a survivable that damages as much as anyone else.

And I play him as tank. I get between the big guys and shield my squishy teammates. I rez w relative ease. My CD is low enough that my skill leetch keeps me alive. I swear its so much fun. I feel like Hulk. Hulk smash!

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Originally posted by ShadowArcanist:

Originally posted by NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯:

SUrvivability builds dont exist and are completely secondary.

I don't know. My AP Devastator rarely dies and tanks every boss toe to toe. But the same thing that heals me is the same thing that damages so I am a survivable that damages as much as anyone else.

And I play him as tank. I get between the big guys and shield my squishy teammates. I rez w relative ease. My CD is low enough that my skill leetch keeps me alive. I swear its so much fun. I feel like Hulk. Hulk smash!

You dont need the middle tree for survive at all. WEapon leech, skill leech, healing doesnt need the middle tree. It is irrelevant. You dont need it. Most dont use it as again the game rewards dps as many dead things cant hurt you anymore. You only use survive as much as needed the rest either you are debuff or dps. The game doesnt reward a pure tank. Max health pieces? LOL no a few MAYBE. WHo stacks max health?

[Resist]

Originally posted by ShadowArcanist:

I do not experience the same. My techno tears stuff up when my bullet skill is up and all my shots become crits and the damage stacks after three kills. But then the pyro AOE fries all my ammo and THEN I experience what you have. :D

I don't think you realize how much that "tear stuff up" pales when compared to the other 2 DPSers. No offence there, but from what you typed you are not even using Dark Sacrifice, meaning you are running sub optimal damage build.

[PocketYoda]

I saw a build today give it a look it might help ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTOoEdHFtVk
If you are low level ignore the legendaries and go purples. I like NickTew his builds transfer to lowbies quite well.

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Oh what a surprise a bullet build.

[Mereoleona, Fister of Fury]

Originally posted by NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯:

Oh what a surprise a bullet build.

yup :/ imagine sucking so bad that you suck at using the most braindead build in the game. but i gotta say, you missed the person calling OP "sub optimal" because he wasnt using meta mods. lmao

[Resist]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

I saw a build today give it a look it might help ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTOoEdHFtVk
If you are low level ignore the legendaries and go purples. I like NickTew his builds transfer to lowbies quite well.

That's a prenerf, my friend.

[TheClamMan]

I'm confused. I thought toxomancer was one of the best DPS' in the game. What did they nerf that changed that?

[Willard]

Why am I soloing CT15s easily with my techno? Still having like 1M+ crits melting Brood mothers in seconds, how exactly is that low dps?

[Resist]

Originally posted by Willard:

Why am I soloing CT15s easily with my techno? Still having like 1M+ crits melting Brood mothers in seconds, how exactly is that low dps?

I've no idea... I literally have the same setup I had 3 days ago, my damage fell off a cliff since the item resotration. I was doing 400-500k white hites, now I barely pass 200k and I'm even playing with 7 damage mods.

[BuddyGuy]

Originally posted by madbirdy:

Originally posted by Willard:

Why am I soloing CT15s easily with my techno? Still having like 1M+ crits melting Brood mothers in seconds, how exactly is that low dps?

I've no idea... I literally have the same setup I had 3 days ago, my damage fell off a cliff since the item resotration.

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