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Tom Lee Apr 28, 2021 @ 1:33am
Again, what's the point of lvl 50 legendaries?
They made them so rare as if they'd mean something. People run CT15 solo without issues in epic gear. A full legendary set, or a single item for that matter, would destroy their build. Please make legendary sets worth getting. Don't put absurd mod combinations in them that don't suit popular builds or give them a third mod slot, or keep two slots but make them both moddable, something like that. Their sole purpose is to extract mods and scrap them afterwards. That's like buying a Ferrari, keeping the steering-wheel and scrapping the rest.
Last edited by Tom Lee; Apr 28, 2021 @ 1:45am
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Baron01 Apr 28, 2021 @ 1:57am 
Legendary items as they are now implemented are mostly used to obtain their tier 3 mods. There are certainly few legendary items that you can wear, eg. Inferno Seed AR, some armor pieces that provide strong set bonus and even some stand-alone armor pieces.

Legendary items have fixed stats so they either fit your build or they dont, however, legendary items are the only items that can have two tier 3 mods on them so if there is a particularly strong combination of mods available for your class and build, you can go for it.

I have cleared everything, except Eye of the Storm, on my Technomancer as solo without any legendary item equipped. I also did it with Inferno Seed AR. My Blighted Rounds build does not need nor have any solid legendary set but I might try to build Cold Snap build so I would be using Borealis legendary set.

Could legendary items be stronger? Sure.
Would I be glad they would become best-in-slot? Nope because it would just force you to do more grind.

I'm happy with the way legendary items are implemented--alternative option but not mandatory.
Tom Lee Apr 28, 2021 @ 4:04am 
when you don't need them and you can run almost everythimg at CT 15 solo, what's the point of continuing to play, other than making a new character? If full legendary sets would offer a mega 5 piece bonus that's required for future DLC content, i'd really have a reason to keep grinding but not as it stands now.
Munchies Apr 28, 2021 @ 4:17am 
It's clear that the intentions of the Devs are to add more even rareish items later on and higher difficulty.

The whole system looks incomplete.

I am sure there are exotic items coming or whatever they will call them to compliment the legendary items right now.

Look at all looter shooters. At first there is the normal loot, then epic, then legendary, then exotic, then 3 piece bonuses then 4 and 5 piece bonuses ...

It's hard for me to believe PCF have not planned it for the long run. Those things are planned years before even the first video about this game have come out. Look at the game interface - truck cosmetics and emoticons, flag cosmetics and whatnot ...
pRaX Apr 28, 2021 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Tom Lee:
when you don't need them and you can run almost everythimg at CT 15 solo, what's the point of continuing to play, other than making a new character? If full legendary sets would offer a mega 5 piece bonus that's required for future DLC content, i'd really have a reason to keep grinding but not as it stands now.
What's the point of living if we die in the end?
ele Apr 28, 2021 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Tom Lee:
when you don't need them and you can run almost everythimg at CT 15 solo, what's the point of continuing to play, other than making a new character? If full legendary sets would offer a mega 5 piece bonus that's required for future DLC content, i'd really have a reason to keep grinding but not as it stands now.

Welcome to PVE games. You play for the fun.
Vihear Apr 28, 2021 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Tom Lee:
when you don't need them and you can run almost everythimg at CT 15 solo, what's the point of continuing to play, other than making a new character? If full legendary sets would offer a mega 5 piece bonus that's required for future DLC content, i'd really have a reason to keep grinding but not as it stands now.

The game barely came out not even a month ago... give it time to grow and blossom.
Baron01 Apr 28, 2021 @ 5:22am 
Legendary items, or their equivalent, are almost never intended to be worn in all slots. Just look at Division 2 which limits, or at least did back when I was playing it, how many legendary items you could wear. These types of rare items are often used to complement existing builds or add special flavor.
Outriders approach seem to be more relaxed compared to Division but those legendary items also do not provide such a huge power boost. Legendary items still have downsides, which in my opinion is good because it forces players to make an evaluation rather than making legendary items no-brain decision.
I also believe that Outriders gear progression is currently imbalanced and will need several adjustment passes before it is in a good spot. Certain items are clearly underpowered while few are overpowered or mandatory for certain builds, eg. Acari set for anomaly skill Pyromancers.
Again, I'm glad legendary items are not mandatory but I acknowledge that these items could use power boost due to how rare they are.
Schalimah Apr 28, 2021 @ 7:15am 
typical anomaly rounds players...

If you would play any anomaly power builds you would know that 3 piece set bonuses are amazing.
Wearing chest, head and legs is generaly not even a compromise because the stats are good.
+50% AP for every enemy hit with Heat Wave is an absolute must for overheat pyromancer.
Same goes for Tricksters playing Cyclone Slice/Temporal Blade.
100% Damage to both abilities.

Just because you decided to activate your bullet skill and play a pure third person shooter does not mean everyone does.
Originally posted by Schalimah:
typical anomaly rounds players...

If you would play any anomaly power builds you would know that 3 piece set bonuses are amazing.
Wearing chest, head and legs is generaly not even a compromise because the stats are good.
+50% AP for every enemy hit with Heat Wave is an absolute must for overheat pyromancer.
Same goes for Tricksters playing Cyclone Slice/Temporal Blade.
100% Damage to both abilities.

Just because you decided to activate your bullet skill and play a pure third person shooter does not mean everyone does.
dont forget the 50% extra damage vs bleed for devastators (can be buffed to ~90% with both bleed damage mods) also they would have to let armor roll random stats as, as it stands, boots and hand legendaries -non set can roll ap/fp - only seem to roll health instead of AP/FP. but im not fussed really. i only run AP builds and am farming for filler pieces for boot/hands for my other 3 characters
Last edited by Mereoleona, Fister of Fury; Apr 28, 2021 @ 7:20am
htluvinz Apr 28, 2021 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by Munchies NerdsBG:
It's clear that the intentions of the Devs are to add more even rareish items later on and higher difficulty.

The whole system looks incomplete.

I am sure there are exotic items coming or whatever they will call them to compliment the legendary items right now.

Look at all looter shooters. At first there is the normal loot, then epic, then legendary, then exotic, then 3 piece bonuses then 4 and 5 piece bonuses ...

It's hard for me to believe PCF have not planned it for the long run. Those things are planned years before even the first video about this game have come out. Look at the game interface - truck cosmetics and emoticons, flag cosmetics and whatnot ...
i hope you are right. i do find the lack of communication disturbing for this many copies sold. its odd to hear so little a month in.
Tom Lee Apr 28, 2021 @ 8:23am 
There are good lego armor mixes for Techno gun builds as well. 3 piece Borealis plus 2 piece Plague, need to replace 2 mods or so but looks pretty good on paper. I am just afraid that one human life isn't enough to get them all.
Samantha Raven Apr 28, 2021 @ 8:31am 
Game needs to let us customize gear stats switch them out with other stats or change both gear trait slots as well would fix these issues all legendary gear does is give incress stats any ways sense u can deconstruct legendary and get there trait skill like only way to get tier 3 traits any ways is deconstruction legendary.

So like i said all they need to do is allow us to swap stats like you can with traits and with the ability to upgrade stats already there litterly there no point not to allow swaping cause there current gear system a mess i found its better to get green gear upgrade it max then switch it cause then u can choose the traits for both slots then its alot easyer to get the perfect set sense the major issue is finding gear pieces with stats u want and green gear so common and sense there no transmog for gear apperances i went with green pieces upgrade to purple and then pour points into upgrading there stats with both traits on it being what i want while also having the look i want.

Just alot of work but pays off better then farming for gear hoping for RNG to roll every thing right.
Shocks Apr 28, 2021 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Tom Lee:
There are good lego armor mixes for Techno gun builds as well. 3 piece Borealis plus 2 piece Plague, need to replace 2 mods or so but looks pretty good on paper. I am just afraid that one human life isn't enough to get them all.
I have all Techno Sets... and I tested alot with them... ALL Legendary items are just Rank 3 Mod holders you can destroy.... Just useless when u equip them...
htluvinz Apr 28, 2021 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Shock:
Originally posted by Tom Lee:
There are good lego armor mixes for Techno gun builds as well. 3 piece Borealis plus 2 piece Plague, need to replace 2 mods or so but looks pretty good on paper. I am just afraid that one human life isn't enough to get them all.
I have all Techno Sets... and I tested alot with them... ALL Legendary items are just Rank 3 Mod holders you can destroy.... Just useless when u equip them...
you tested the borealis perk on a crit build yet? been waiting for the 3rd piece to drop to test it. seems like that would have potential for boss nuking, would be a clear loss on trash mobs though.
Ducky Apr 28, 2021 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by htluvinz:
Originally posted by Shock:
I have all Techno Sets... and I tested alot with them... ALL Legendary items are just Rank 3 Mod holders you can destroy.... Just useless when u equip them...
you tested the borealis perk on a crit build yet? been waiting for the 3rd piece to drop to test it. seems like that would have potential for boss nuking, would be a clear loss on trash mobs though.


I read somewhere that this set bonus is some kind of broken because "the caster" dont get the 90% crit bonus only teammates
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