To Everyone defending Arc System Works

[Morgalad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rze4BKNH0B4

Don't tell me they're not greedy and this is just the standard lol

[Camplifi3d]

しゃちょう の投稿を引用：

SuperEyeShot PHC$ の投稿を引用：

wrong definition.

otaku is in occident your average anime and manga passionate. Nothing gross. It really depends if it is said in Japan or occident.

well otaku actually means just about anyone who is passionate about something.

But ya, guess usually used for just mainly anime and manga fans. Probably not in a good way.

you def arent a ♥♥♥ just a weeb that crys about not being able to win a match and says you wasted your money like dude thats your problem not ours person im looking foward to just playing the story and against the cpu

[Camplifi3d]

しゃちょう の投稿を引用：

Fighter Z aka Garbage, will apparently have base Goku and base Vegeta as DLC characters lol

And Fighter Z sucks, too.

Arc System Works is honestly usually overrated by only weeaboos anyway.

then you think anyone who is excited for it for any reason or just like it regardless is a weeb that only likes it because its dragonball like get a life nobody cares that you wasted your money it isnt our problem and dont call people weebs for liking it because im willing to be you definately arent a ♥♥♥ just using ♥♥♥ letters in your name and setting your account to private so people cant tell

[NOSCOPENOPROBLEM]

SherlockJM の投稿を引用：

i don't get why arcsys gets the surprise hate now, they have been doing this types of things for almost as long as Crapcom: Guilty gear, guilty gear rev2 (pay 20 dollars for two characters), guilty gear XX , guilty gear XX reloaded, guilty gear XX slash (all the same game with minor improvements sold separetely), guilty gear X, BB,BBCP, BBCF.

They have build their company on cashing revisions and selling the same game over and over for years and now people get surprised when they continue to pull the same ♥♥♥♥ they have been doing for decades...

What do you think they were going to do with DB Fighterz? Hint: look at Guilty Gear Xrd on steam...

People have always criticized Arcsys for doing DLC content, they've never been "Surprised" about it.

[Krude]

This game is handled by bandai and made by ark sys. that game is handled and made by ark sys.

With blazblue cross tag it all comes down to the price, if 40 characters via all in one char pack + game = 60 dollars then it's not a bad deal at all and base game would be considered an "lite" game.

even then it's dumb of them to open themselves up to such easy even if misinformed criticism and i expected better of them.

[Simatron3000]

Noh の投稿を引用：

This game is handled by bandai and made by ark sys. that game is handled and made by ark sys.

With blazblue cross tag it all comes down to the price, if 40 characters via all in one char pack + game = 60 dollars then it's not a bad deal at all and base game would be considered an "lite" game.

even then it's dumb of them to open themselves up to such easy even if misinformed criticism and i expected better of them.

The game is 2000 yen cheaper than DBZF.

[SNeeeeeeed]

ded gaem

[Poke'Montoya]

Noh の投稿を引用：

This game is handled by bandai and made by ark sys. that game is handled and made by ark sys.

With blazblue cross tag it all comes down to the price, if 40 characters via all in one char pack + game = 60 dollars then it's not a bad deal at all and base game would be considered an "lite" game.

even then it's dumb of them to open themselves up to such easy even if misinformed criticism and i expected better of them.

i cant get people to udnerstand this... you end up getting more content with BBCTAG than DBFZ but people have such a blind love for dbz that this release could almost do no wrong.

i have local friends who have been talking about this game like they have played it (before the beta) and others who go on and on about how good it is, people in countless forums before the beta happened even admitting that it doesnt matter if the game is bad they will still play the hell out of it because it is dbz...

from what i played it seems pretty good. nothing crazier than any other fighter out there tho.does it get a pass for doing the same thing as BBCTAG? hell no... both have bs practices but the second one honestly has a better value...

[Xeno Metora]

these days japan has poor resources to make video games and can't compete with other countries because japan is a small freaking island...their budget and manpower doesn't even compare with big companies like ubisoft that's why their market practices revolve around recycling games and dlc's

this explains why almost all their games feel unfinished, are bareboned and recycled and full of dlc's... just look at what happend with SFV.....or tekken 7 how bareboned it is compared with previous games, or how recycled the naruto ninja storm series is

dragon ball super is another example... if you look pass the flashy graphics what do you have? a 3v3 only fighting game with 2D mugen gameplay and a couple of characters ....basically a 30$ game sold for 60$-100$

[NOSCOPENOPROBLEM]

Restvive の投稿を引用：

these days japan has poor resources to make video games and can't compete with other countries because japan is a small freaking island...their budget and manpower doesn't even compare with big companies like ubisoft that's why their market practices revolve around recycling games and dlc's

this explains why almost all their games feel unfinished, are bareboned and recycled and full of dlc's... just look at what happend with SFV.....or tekken 7 how bareboned it is compared with previous games, or how recycled the naruto ninja storm series is

dragon ball super is another example... if you look pass the flashy graphics what do you have? a 3v3 only fighting game with 2D mugen gameplay and a couple of characters ....basically a 30$ game sold for 60$-100$

"These days Japan has poor resources to make video games and can't compete with other countries because Japan is a small freaking island"

Generally speaking, there's three regions in the world who make most of the video games: North America, Western Europe, and Japan. It's also not like they're folding game discs a thousand times to save money, the nation has quite a few people working on assets and code. If anything, Japan has a bigger indie scene and more homogenously spread out scene for not only video games, but comics and animation as well, as opposed to North America, which has its creators generally living only near highrises on the urban coasts. Japan's not small, it's compressed.

Furthermore, there have been quite a few Japanese games out there lately that don't recycle or reuse assets. SFV is barebones not because the circumstances of Japan's territorial depth or economy, but because Capcom for a long time has been getting worse and worse with game development and marketing overall. SFV is barebones because Capcom wanted to release the game earlier for the purpose of making bank from tournaments(Heck, Capcom even had ESPN and Disney XD show SFV at EVO last year), and ironically it's not even going to make an appearance at EVO 2018 due to how bad it is, and the only thing you can blame SFV's faults on is Capcom itself. As for Tekken I can't exactly say.

Overall though your argument's rather baseless and filled with excuses that simply do not add up.

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NOSCOPENOPROBLEM の投稿を引用：

Restvive の投稿を引用：

these days japan has poor resources to make video games and can't compete with other countries because japan is a small freaking island...their budget and manpower doesn't even compare with big companies like ubisoft that's why their market practices revolve around recycling games and dlc's

this explains why almost all their games feel unfinished, are bareboned and recycled and full of dlc's... just look at what happend with SFV.....or tekken 7 how bareboned it is compared with previous games, or how recycled the naruto ninja storm series is

dragon ball super is another example... if you look pass the flashy graphics what do you have? a 3v3 only fighting game with 2D mugen gameplay and a couple of characters ....basically a 30$ game sold for 60$-100$

"These days Japan has poor resources to make video games and can't compete with other countries because Japan is a small freaking island"

Generally speaking, there's three regions in the world who make most of the video games: North America, Western Europe, and Japan. It's also not like they're folding game discs a thousand times to save money, the nation has quite a few people working on assets and code. If anything, Japan has a bigger indie scene and more homogenously spread out scene for not only video games, but comics and animation as well, as opposed to North America, which has its creators generally living only near highrises on the urban coasts. Japan's not small, it's compressed.

Furthermore, there have been quite a few Japanese games out there lately that don't recycle or reuse assets. SFV is barebones not because the circumstances of Japan's territorial depth or economy, but because Capcom for a long time has been getting worse and worse with game development and marketing overall. SFV is barebones because Capcom wanted to release the game earlier for the purpose of making bank from tournaments(Heck, Capcom even had ESPN and Disney XD show SFV at EVO last year), and ironically it's not even going to make an appearance at EVO 2018 due to how bad it is, and the only thing you can blame SFV's faults on is Capcom itself. As for Tekken I can't exactly say.

Overall though your argument's rather baseless and filled with excuses that simply do not add up.

SFV is certainly going to be at EVO lol, did I miss something and did you mean MVCI?

[jeh]

GameGenCancer の投稿を引用：

Arc System Works is gonna die very slowly because of this. Capcom is pretty much on life support along with Mortal Kombat. If Soul Calibur VI and Tekken 8 ♥♥♥♥♥ up, well mainstream fighting games are just.....well............dead?

Makes complete sense because you know, Shadow of Mordor and Assasin's Creed are dead aren't they? Ohhhh what's that? They sold millions of copies even though they contained loot boxes in a single player game. Stop talking ♥♥♥♥.

[Morgalad]

jeh の投稿を引用：

GameGenCancer の投稿を引用：

Arc System Works is gonna die very slowly because of this. Capcom is pretty much on life support along with Mortal Kombat. If Soul Calibur VI and Tekken 8 ♥♥♥♥♥ up, well mainstream fighting games are just.....well............dead?

Makes complete sense because you know, Shadow of Mordor and Assasin's Creed are dead aren't they? Ohhhh what's that? They sold millions of copies even though they contained loot boxes in a single player game. Stop talking ♥♥♥♥.

Howerer, did Shadow of War sell better than Shadow of Mordor?(Can't speak to AC since I never really bothered after AC2 except for black flag because of the whole being a pirate thing, so I haven't been keeping up)

http://steamspy.com/app/241930
http://steamspy.com/app/356190

Even though they came out 3 years apart they have pretty much the same player base right now. You should also take into account the fact that a game selling well doesn't mean neither it sold as well as the company wanted it too nor that it sold as well as it's predecesor.

Xenoverse 1 and 2 both sold millions, however, Xenoverse 2 sold about 4 million less copies. You may not notice but companies definitely do.

Costumer attrition, be it because of crappy business practices or crappy products, doesn't happen over night. It happens slowly, over the years, eroding costumer good will untill they end up saying "enough is enough" and stop buying.

It's precisely the reason for the whole controversy with battlefront and destiny. It's nothing new, but not as many people are willing to give them a pass anymore, and their sales suffered for it.

[humaneshadow]

you know capcom nrs namco do same practice ♥♥♥♥ JUST DO NOT BUY THE DAMN GAME seriously your wallet is they payday if people do not buy. it they will listen they lose money ea does same thing people still buy it whatever is it on them im not buying cross tag anyway