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Why does Goku's face look so screwed up?
Out of all the DB FighterZ characters show, Goku is the only one that doesn't look like he's supposed to. His face and I think that features of his face are too tiny and squished together, that his eyebrows are too angled, and that his face looks a lot more flat than in the comics and the animes.

http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/678950/ss_fc0a6681f43c6adec6a4d638a40656f6e1b12d6b.1920x1080.jpg?t=1511988725

That face doesn't resemble Goku in the least. I hope that will be fixed before the game is released.

The rest of the characters look fine, IMO, but Goku's face doesn't look like it's supposed to.


Edits:


Here's a shot comparing the eyes of DB FighterZ Saiyajin characters.

https://i.imgur.com/KTl2OdZ.jpg


Also, compare DB FighterZ Goku's face to comic and anime Goku's face, and also to any fan art Goku's face, and it's instantly obvious that they don't look similar, with the DB FighterZ Goku's face looking different, and awkward by comparison.

Two major issues are that the eyes for FighterZ Goku's face are missing key detail that the comic and anime have, that creates the face that is recognizable as Goku's, and also the nose for FighterZ Goku's face is much smaller, and more of a point than the comic and anime Goku's face.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2JGdHLa2MdA/Udo5_ybPyTI/AAAAAAAAAQY/GluKPZifyLI/s1600/hardrock24.jpg
http://media.comicbook.com/2017/03/dragon-ball-super-050-05-goku-prepares-235930.jpg
http://www.cartoondistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/k.png
http://pm1.narvii.com/6249/60f1aad1a30daa2c5520dea8857edfb52887281d_hq.jpg
http://s.storage.akamai.coub.com/get/b20/p/coub/simple/cw_image/1a1daaad062/ba38b6caa0a85a4c0ddca/med_1475979130_00032.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X-bInYuu_Ps/maxresdefault.jpg

https://wallpaper.wiki/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/wallpaper.wiki-Goku-Dragon-Ball-Z-Photo-PIC-WPE005913.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/bc/4a/b4bc4a92b41727811898e397fc1c5475.jpg
https://orig00.deviantart.net/fed7/f/2012/244/1/9/goku___dragon_ball_z_by_rod_lion-d5d7wrm.png


I hope this will be fixed in the final release of the game, as the inconsistency between FighterZ Goku's face and comic and anime Goku's face really stands out, and the FighterZ Goku's face is clearly a miss.
Last edited by Turbo Nozomix; Dec 18, 2017 @ 10:56pm
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Leo Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:56am 
Yeah, you're just nitpicking here, characters look amazing to me.
Last edited by Leo; Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:56am
Turbo Nozomix Dec 19, 2017 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Sid2Vicious:
Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:
Yeah, that whole 'saving face' thing... still isn't working for you.

That's the equivalent of you calling Kuririn-san "Krillinsan" or Birusu-sama "Beerussama", I'm sure you're aware of how stupid that makes you sound?

I'm genuinely wondering whether you're aware how stupid you appear to be trying to score points by this angle. Talk about reaching. And you didn't even have a clue what Saiyajin or Saiya-jin was before I posted it and you did a Google search for it. You just keep embarrassing yourself without restraint.

And on top of it all, you still show no capability of being able to identify Goku's face. Get back to Google, I think you're done here.

Remember that saving face thing you're trying to do? Yeah. It's still not working.

Originally posted by Sid2Vicious:
I'm just messing with Turbo cause he's mixing English with Japanese, and claims to be a true fan.

So, you think that you making yourself look foolish is somehow messing with me? Haha. Then maybe you aren't just making yourself 'look' like a fool.



This person who added and messaged me about the topic sums it up well. I removed their name and avatar for their privacy.

https://i.imgur.com/IHqeVdv.jpg
Last edited by Turbo Nozomix; Dec 19, 2017 @ 5:08am
b🐦. Dec 19, 2017 @ 6:03am 

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/guides/ani_style/model04.png?x64626

Look at how he looks in the episode 90 and 89. Now look at the other drawings in the picture. He has different proportions, size of pupils, neck, face, in all of them. Now tell me, how do you "recognize Goku's face" ? Because they're all different, and yet it's from the source material. His face has always been innacurate.

So what did they do ? They picked a style for their Goku. And most likely, they picked a style that would be easy to make him transform instead of changing the model. The problem here is not that Goku is not looking like Goku, but that they picked a style you don't like.

Here. Have fun looking at all the different faces he makes.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qysBaag5J5g/maxresdefault.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonplanet/images/a/a3/Super_Saiyan_2_Goku.png/revision/latest?cb=20130503175356
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbNb_0tUMAAl053.jpg
https://media.giphy.com/media/VWUZa7JCe1XKo/giphy.gif
Celltastic Dec 19, 2017 @ 6:06am 
gokus face has never been consitent in the manga or anime it always seems to be different and just like boboz said they just chose a style for him
Last edited by Celltastic; Dec 19, 2017 @ 6:07am
DBZ_KAKAROT Dec 19, 2017 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:
Originally posted by Sid2Vicious:

That's the equivalent of you calling Kuririn-san "Krillinsan" or Birusu-sama "Beerussama", I'm sure you're aware of how stupid that makes you sound?

I'm genuinely wondering whether you're aware how stupid you appear to be trying to score points by this angle. Talk about reaching. And you didn't even have a clue what Saiyajin or Saiya-jin was before I posted it and you did a Google search for it. You just keep embarrassing yourself without restraint.

And on top of it all, you still show no capability of being able to identify Goku's face. Get back to Google, I think you're done here.

Remember that saving face thing you're trying to do? Yeah. It's still not working.

Originally posted by Sid2Vicious:
I'm just messing with Turbo cause he's mixing English with Japanese, and claims to be a true fan.

So, you think that you making yourself look foolish is somehow messing with me? Haha. Then maybe you aren't just making yourself 'look' like a fool.



This person who added and messaged me about the topic sums it up well. I removed their name and avatar for their privacy.

https://i.imgur.com/IHqeVdv.jpg

Again sarcasm went over your head. I always knew what a "Supa Saiya-jin" was, then I caught you red handed misspelling the word. Obviously your claiming ignorance now to save face, but "Super Saiyajin" is a made up word by you by combining the english translation Super Saiyan with the Japanese word Saiya-jin, yes there's a suffix -jin there and it does have a separate meaning. But of course you would know that if you were a true fan, but you're not, you probably heard that word from somewhere and thought it would make you sound smarter by mixing it up, but that's just you being a weeaboo. That said you should have used your infinite knowledge of google searching before embarrassing yourself, so for this once I will do a google search for you to help your cause http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Saiyan and I will even highlight the part regarding you so it doesn't skimp your reading ability or comprehension. And I quote: "The suffix, -jin, means "person". "Saiyan" is the English transliteration of Saiya-jin. In the Japanese, "Saiya-jin" is pronounced "Sigh-ya-jin", while in the English dubs, "Saiyan" is pronounced "Say-an".". I hope you learned something today, you're one step forward to being a true Dragon Ball fan! Congrats.
Serchlight Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:
Out of all the DB FighterZ characters show, Goku is the only one that doesn't look like he's supposed to. His face and I think that features of his face are too tiny and squished together, that his eyebrows are too angled, and that his face looks a lot more flat than in the comics and the animes.

http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/678950/ss_fc0a6681f43c6adec6a4d638a40656f6e1b12d6b.1920x1080.jpg?t=1511988725

That face doesn't resemble Goku in the least. I hope that will be fixed before the game is released.

The rest of the characters look fine, IMO, but Goku's face doesn't look like it's supposed to.


Edits:


Here's a shot comparing the eyes of DB FighterZ Saiyajin characters.

https://i.imgur.com/KTl2OdZ.jpg


Also, compare DB FighterZ Goku's face to comic and anime Goku's face, and also to any fan art Goku's face, and it's instantly obvious that they don't look similar, with the DB FighterZ Goku's face looking different, and awkward by comparison.

Two major issues are that the eyes for FighterZ Goku's face are missing key detail that the comic and anime have, that creates the face that is recognizable as Goku's, and also the nose for FighterZ Goku's face is much smaller, and more of a point than the comic and anime Goku's face.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2JGdHLa2MdA/Udo5_ybPyTI/AAAAAAAAAQY/GluKPZifyLI/s1600/hardrock24.jpg
http://media.comicbook.com/2017/03/dragon-ball-super-050-05-goku-prepares-235930.jpg
http://www.cartoondistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/k.png
http://pm1.narvii.com/6249/60f1aad1a30daa2c5520dea8857edfb52887281d_hq.jpg
http://s.storage.akamai.coub.com/get/b20/p/coub/simple/cw_image/1a1daaad062/ba38b6caa0a85a4c0ddca/med_1475979130_00032.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X-bInYuu_Ps/maxresdefault.jpg

https://wallpaper.wiki/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/wallpaper.wiki-Goku-Dragon-Ball-Z-Photo-PIC-WPE005913.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/bc/4a/b4bc4a92b41727811898e397fc1c5475.jpg
https://orig00.deviantart.net/fed7/f/2012/244/1/9/goku___dragon_ball_z_by_rod_lion-d5d7wrm.png


I hope this will be fixed in the final release of the game, as the inconsistency between FighterZ Goku's face and comic and anime Goku's face really stands out, and the FighterZ Goku's face is clearly a miss.
Me personally I think goku looks right
Last edited by Serchlight; Dec 19, 2017 @ 12:53pm
Dreadfield Dec 19, 2017 @ 4:20pm 
i think this post is fun.., so comparing this with anime tv, television, is a bad comparission .
They always used diferent artist, to do the anime tv, so goku looked inconsistent, in cicles of episodes, so in the movies, and manga, his drawing was always consistent almost perfect depiction of him, i watched all and read them all, i think his face in this game, i said this, as an artist, and i used to draw dragon ball characters a lot, the character model of his face look inconsistent in some camera position , maybe his modeel head is a litle to flat i can see this, is not really bad but i can see some stylish diference, but watching the rest of the characters done so well , its weird the didnt went so true to desing here with GOKU
Last edited by Dreadfield; Dec 19, 2017 @ 4:21pm
carlins Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:28am 
"Comics and anime"
its not comic its manga
troll detected
Cruna Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:49am 
Maybe I'm in minority here, but....
I couldn't care less about Goku and his looks. While I absolutely adored Son Goku as a kid from the start of the Series... from DBZ onward, somehow slowly he became the least interesting character of the entire cast. While the story still evolves around him, he became boring and uninteresting, compared to others.
Last edited by Cruna; Dec 20, 2017 @ 3:52am
Turbo Nozomix Dec 25, 2017 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by Sid2Vicious:
Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:

I'm genuinely wondering whether you're aware how stupid you appear to be trying to score points by this angle. Talk about reaching. And you didn't even have a clue what Saiyajin or Saiya-jin was before I posted it and you did a Google search for it. You just keep embarrassing yourself without restraint.

And on top of it all, you still show no capability of being able to identify Goku's face. Get back to Google, I think you're done here.

Remember that saving face thing you're trying to do? Yeah. It's still not working.



So, you think that you making yourself look foolish is somehow messing with me? Haha. Then maybe you aren't just making yourself 'look' like a fool.



This person who added and messaged me about the topic sums it up well. I removed their name and avatar for their privacy.

https://i.imgur.com/IHqeVdv.jpg

Again sarcasm went over your head. I always knew what a "Supa Saiya-jin" was, then I caught you red handed misspelling the word. Obviously your claiming ignorance now to save face, but "Super Saiyajin" is a made up word by you by combining the english translation Super Saiyan with the Japanese word Saiya-jin, yes there's a suffix -jin there and it does have a separate meaning. But of course you would know that if you were a true fan, but you're not, you probably heard that word from somewhere and thought it would make you sound smarter by mixing it up, but that's just you being a weeaboo. That said you should have used your infinite knowledge of google searching before embarrassing yourself, so for this once I will do a google search for you to help your cause http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Saiyan and I will even highlight the part regarding you so it doesn't skimp your reading ability or comprehension. And I quote: "The suffix, -jin, means "person". "Saiyan" is the English transliteration of Saiya-jin. In the Japanese, "Saiya-jin" is pronounced "Sigh-ya-jin", while in the English dubs, "Saiyan" is pronounced "Say-an".". I hope you learned something today, you're one step forward to being a true Dragon Ball fan! Congrats.

Wow. You came back just to try further to play your previous embarrassments off, while inevitably embarrassing yourself some more? How many times are you going to attempt to save face, and utterly fail at it?

Everything you think you know about Dragon Ball you learned from Google in the past few days, with a little help from posters like myself. Heck, I was astounded when you thought that name-dropping the intro music title to Dragon Ball was some sort of "gotcha" moment. That act in itself demonstrated that you are a DB virgin.

But that's not what this thread is about. It's about Goku's face in DB FIghterZ being screwed up, and all the other noise is just you desperately trying to play off all the times you stuck your foot in your mouth.


Originally posted by Dreadfield:
i think this post is fun.., so comparing this with anime tv, television, is a bad comparission .
They always used diferent artist, to do the anime tv, so goku looked inconsistent, in cicles of episodes, so in the movies, and manga, his drawing was always consistent almost perfect depiction of him, i watched all and read them all, i think his face in this game, i said this, as an artist, and i used to draw dragon ball characters a lot, the character model of his face look inconsistent in some camera position , maybe his modeel head is a litle to flat i can see this, is not really bad but i can see some stylish diference, but watching the rest of the characters done so well , its weird the didnt went so true to desing here with GOKU

Yeah. It is strange that Goku is the character that's been given the least amount of attention to accuracy.

And while the animes have featured different artists with different styles, there are generally some things that were always consistent staples of the character designs, like the way the eyes are done.

I get an artist wanting to try out their own ideas and styles, if that's what happened here, but I don't necessarily agree with doing that in a flagship title for the series, particularly one that is all about capturing the authentic look and feel that the fans know and are familiar with from the series.
Last edited by Turbo Nozomix; Dec 25, 2017 @ 2:52am
Horler Dec 25, 2017 @ 5:55am 
grow up kid its a game doesn't need to be perfect
Gordon Dec 25, 2017 @ 8:12am 
thats what happend though out dragon balls hystory just let this topic die
Auxro Dec 27, 2017 @ 12:06pm 
I've just checked by comparing shots from the show and their recreations in FighterZ and the proportions match. There's nothing wrong with Goku's face, you just wanted to cause an argument in the FighterZ community section because you have nothing better to do with your time.
King Hadu Dec 27, 2017 @ 3:52pm 
It can't be helped unfortunately this is 3D, as skilled as Arc Systems is at creating perfect 2D sprites in 3D form they cannot pull off this.

Vegeta nose from the side also looks like a pig, his face is not good from the side, nothing we can do about this.

Arc systems have the best artist on the planet they are the only ones capable of creating 3D models to look nearly identical to 2D sprites.

You will never get the perfection you see in the DBS TV animation because those are hand drawn 2D
Last edited by King Hadu; Dec 27, 2017 @ 3:53pm
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