DLC characters initially broken to make money is immoral

[nsa]

also I'm not rematching you im ♥♥♥♥ enough at this game to deal with a guy with three parrys a 1 string that launches air opponents, a combo starting dp and command grabs.

[The Grimm Reefer]

salty.

[Pecsi]

Get good, two dlc characters are the worst in the game so your point is kinda missed.

[Masuo15]

"initially broken" ok, you tell me how they know its gonna be broken and not under perfoming?, one thing is them making the character and labbing it out, and other is having THOUSANDS of players with different playstyles and ideas, sharing info and their finds, what can/cant you do, and then stuff being discovered for combo structures.

Its only after ASW sees how people use the avaliable tools, they adjust them, tkae GT goku for example, his spirit bomb oki was ABSURD anywhere on the screen; they nerfed that and GT's second hit on the auto combo; but buffed the Power Pole as people werent using it as the kind of tool ASW intended to be used.

SSJ Goku got rebalance to make his 2M no longer a guarantee crossup mixup, but as an opener/distance option; you legit can see SSJ like at half the screen distance and approaching, you MUST wonder/react if he will instnat airdash + button; or just 2M from there; and open you up.

I used to think DLC characters were absurdly powerfull too, particulary ZBroly, Bardock and SBroly; but after I adqurie them myself and lab them for few hours, I figure out their pros and cons, so when I run into them, Im not that scared anymore. I knew thats how I would feel after read so much complains about Vegito, yet people know how to exploit his weakness to beat him easily (and he was my first character in this game).

[Fauxnel]

Oprindeligt skrevet af PeptoConkeLight:

Get good, two dlc characters are the worst in the game so your point is kinda missed.

Don't tell me you're talking about Videl, her autocombo starts with a low that looks like an uppercut lol She's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy... Literal opening-up machine, and because not many play her it makes things worse

[Joe Cool]

I think it's funny how everyone is like "Videl is automatically the worst character in the game because no reflect!!!"

I've fought Videl players who use that dodge move with brutal effectiveness. You're hammering into them as they block and suddenly they dodge one of your attacks and launch into a brutal counter combo that you have no hope of blocking.

[Gazavat]

Mash f11 to make them suffer

[Masuo15]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Joe Cool:

I think it's funny how everyone is like "Videl is automatically the worst character in the game because no reflect!!!"

I've fought Videl players who use that dodge move with brutal effectiveness. You're hammering into them as they block and suddenly they dodge one of your attacks and launch into a brutal counter combo that you have no hope of blocking.

In papper, the spot dodge put you in an even or negative situattion, it really depends what Videl spot dodges to make use of that. Similar to reflect, where after doing it, you still need to be sure you are out of reach or have a button to punish your opponent after it.

Again, even bad tools can be put to great use in the hands of good players or players that know the roster.

[The Buff, no relation]

This is an amazing experience. I thought PSN parties and facebook groups were full of scrubbiness. You guys got them BEAT.

[Omega]

I don't think he's broken. I tend to do well with Jiren since he has a lot of counters at his disposal.

[Kwcten]

remember when both jiren and videl came out and how they were broeken? no? me neither cause they were not broken just bad

[doldol04]

"autocombo that launches air opponents" multiple chars with air launching light autocombos already exist.

"3 parries" by that logic hit and jiren are busted. not to mention most of the time with ui goku's basic parry you lose your turn. his super can easily be punished with a raw lvl 3 if you predict it.

"combo starting DP" totally not punishable at all on block. literally the only difference from a reversal is that you spend no meter.

"combo starting command grabs" literally every grab can lead to a combo tf are you talking about? and unlike grapplers you can 2H the whole flip mixup other than 214H.

[Shadeblack]

We only fear the unknown. Try to know your opponents characters and exploit their weaknesses. It makes part of a good and competitive gameplan.

[nsa]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Shadeblack:

We only fear the unknown. Try to know your opponents characters and exploit their weaknesses. It makes part of a good and competitive gameplan.

so what your saying is, this game is pay to win cause you have to Buy the character to go into training mode with it?

[nsa]

games dead, sucks, covid positive, and its life doesn't matter, rip

[Goro san]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hello:

so what your saying is, this game is pay to win cause you have to Buy the character to go into training mode with it?

In case you didnt notice, thats literally EVERY fighting game now.
They realease new characters as DLCs so you would be forced to get em to be competitive.