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Why does everyone put Beerus so low?

You can extend combos with his assist.
You can do Double supers with him alone or change to Vegito or whatever and do his lvl 1 twice(or once and then just dash and keep hitting) and change to third char lvl 1/3.
You can even bait with balls and punish.

Sure his reach with L and 2H isnt the best but you can just use either 2L, M/2M or H
He is really not that bad lol

This just proves Tier lists are s**t and people just play with what everyone else plays, not trying stuff on their own.


I put beerus here because i once mained it. And his problem are not his combos, they are pretty good. But it's the fact that his orbs are useless except for combo, his 2M reach is high, but it has a tracking features that make him stop under the opponent, so pretty bad when your opponent is jumping back/forward. Then, for his lights, even if your ely on your 2l, there will always be a case where you want to do your auto combo, and not connecting your first light is higly punishable.

Then, for his heavies, His standing Heavy doesn't take all of the hit box and the recovery time is far to high, makign some situation really frustrating. Same for your 2H, when you try to launch him high in the air into a ground combo, you can't, because he doesn't have the reach to do so.

The fact that he struggle this much to get into his combo is why i put him below.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Grim Reefer:
I've always thought tier lists to be stupid. I've also thought the people that follow them like some kind of bible are stupid. No offense. I'll keep my fat buu on point.
Never said that you shoudn't play fat buu. Just saying that someone who spam cell will be more eager to rank up since he is stronger in every aspect than all character.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Infevo:
i think you don't understand what the x-axis stands for. other than that i disagree with a couple of things but i don't want to waste my time on random people's tier lists...
I removed X axis because i'm not experienced enougth in fighting game to rank them in ''well rounded'' and ''has fault'', i'll do an other when i'll experience every character and find out what it means :)
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Star Platinum:
Why is Gotenks so high up in the list? His dmg is below average, but is quite handy in terms of moves. Is it because of assist or because WeebFox is using him?
Insane mix up as said below, his cancelable Beam make him unpredictable, insane energy building. The only fact that he is not at the same rank as Kid buu or Bardock is his averages damages.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kyle Watson:

I put beerus here because i once mained it. And his problem are not his combos, they are pretty good. But it's the fact that his orbs are useless except for combo, his 2M reach is high, but it has a tracking features that make him stop under the opponent, so pretty bad when your opponent is jumping back/forward. Then, for his lights, even if your ely on your 2l, there will always be a case where you want to do your auto combo, and not connecting your first light is higly punishable.

Then, for his heavies, His standing Heavy doesn't take all of the hit box and the recovery time is far to high, makign some situation really frustrating. Same for your 2H, when you try to launch him high in the air into a ground combo, you can't, because he doesn't have the reach to do so.

The fact that he struggle this much to get into his combo is why i put him below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNeqV8IUMpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlYdSO7C-F0
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย OhhYuu; 25 ก.ค. 2018 @ 10: 40am
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kyle Watson:

I put beerus here because i once mained it. And his problem are not his combos, they are pretty good. But it's the fact that his orbs are useless except for combo, his 2M reach is high, but it has a tracking features that make him stop under the opponent, so pretty bad when your opponent is jumping back/forward. Then, for his lights, even if your ely on your 2l, there will always be a case where you want to do your auto combo, and not connecting your first light is higly punishable.

Then, for his heavies, His standing Heavy doesn't take all of the hit box and the recovery time is far to high, makign some situation really frustrating. Same for your 2H, when you try to launch him high in the air into a ground combo, you can't, because he doesn't have the reach to do so.

The fact that he struggle this much to get into his combo is why i put him below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNeqV8IUMpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlYdSO7C-F0
Okay and when did you start a fight with 7 bar of ki ?
Cell can TOD with 0 bar.
And for the ''Conveniently setting up'' is fcked up cause anybody can super dash trought it
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kyle Watson:

Okay and when did you start a fight with 7 bar of ki ?
Cell can TOD with 0 bar.
And for the ''Conveniently setting up'' is fcked up cause anybody can super dash trought it

Thats just a combo someone did, and you can get 7 bars midfight no problem, i just posted this because someone said his dmg is low.
If they dash you can punish with super or H/2H.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย OhhYuu; 25 ก.ค. 2018 @ 11: 15am
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kyle Watson:

Okay and when did you start a fight with 7 bar of ki ?
Cell can TOD with 0 bar.
And for the ''Conveniently setting up'' is fcked up cause anybody can super dash trought it

Thats just a combo someone did, and you can get 7 bars midfight no problem, i just posted this because someone said his dmg is low.
If they dash you can punish with super or H/2H.
That is when you touch the ground or when your animation is finished.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kyle Watson:

That is when you touch the ground or when your animation is finished.

no need to touch the ground for his Super and you can always just vanish, tag out or do his quarter back L/M/H in the air.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย OhhYuu; 25 ก.ค. 2018 @ 11: 28am
Tbh i don't care argumenting anymore, aslong as i can beat pink square try hards, im fine with Beerus.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
Whats the point in playing anything other than Cell, Kid Buu,Bardock, Black and A.Gohan then?
The points you state are ridiculous.

Because this is a game about opening people up in neutral and confirming into as much damage as possible for as little meter as possible. Just because Cell is the best at it doesn't mean Piccolo can't also some do it. Some characters might work harder like Ginyu or might just work differently like Zamasu and Vegito. They're still viable, and with enough skill, they can win tournaments. Unfortunately, some characters just aren't viable at a certain level. Beerus, Frieza, Nappa, etc are characters that just aren't getting there. Being stubborn and refusing to actually learn the game doesn't help you. I wish Beerus were great man, believe me.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
extend combos with any assist? yeah try that with 18 im sure it works.
The only non-extension combos in the game are 18, Piccolo, and Krillin. Regardless, you're just deflecting away from the point.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
His orbs garbage?
They are really good if you put them in the corner or just as bait for your opponent to dash/ki

If your entire gameplan is bait, then you're not going to win very matches. In the corner they can just be reflected. You 2M or 5L followup will be reflected, then none of your normals will have any chance to hit. Kid buu and A21 get free punishes on you. I understand this works on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but you should start looking at your character a little more objectively. Piccolo can do your corner job better. He gets a meaty 236S that allows a crossup in the corner.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
Double supers with most chars.? Sure if you wanna have Vegeta in every fkin team.

Vegeta is absolutely not the only way to get double supers. A good majority of high-tier+ allows for double supers in some way. Most of them don't even use Vegeta for it.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
hogs resources and not accomplishing anything?
Yes. Bar-for-bar, even Vegito Blue decimates him. Why not show me your best corner BnB? I'm not taking some retarded 2-asst 2-DHC, 7 bar, sparking corner combo. Show me a 1 bar corner BnB. I know personally Beerus is capable of damage because he can double super with his 236LM, but it won't matter when you can't open people up. At best, you can use a meta shell, but him on point or mid, and hope for match unfamiliarity in your opponent. If online Bo1s are your thing, Beerus is plenty viable and Ginyu is probably SSSSS+-tier.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
Now, i am not saying Beerus is the best but you were talking about "team synergy potential" and yet you still put him the lowest even thou he can assist and support more than enough.
His assist can extend combos for corner carry just like many, but he doesn't build much meter, making him a bad point. He also requires meter for damage and setups, meaning he's best mid or anchor, but why have him there when you can have others that are better? He's not practical in any way for any team that wants to be efficient.

Besides, the ability of your asisst to extend generic corner or midscreen corner carry combos isn't all a character is worth. Bardock is fantastic because not only is his assist great in the neutral, but he builds an insane amount of meter and ♥♥♥♥♥ out damage while having a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ laughable amount of + frame buttons. He's hard to block against and has plenty of safe mixups. Beerus can't provide to a team what Bardock will. If your combos are optimal, you'll do more damage and use less meter while building more.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Yu:
Tier lists in this game are just stupid af and i don't even know why i am arguing about dumb s**t like that.

Tier lists from most pros are pretty consistent. Tier lists from randos is pointless, so you being in here mad that people don't think Beerus is good is a little funny too. Honestly, nothing is stopping you from playing him. There are a few pink players with him, but they use meta shells and aren't really that good. You just won't ever be top 8, but who really cares?
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