DBFZ... Where the hell is the fighting game? Did ArcSys do this or someone else?

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BrototypeH DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:32

DBFZ... Where the hell is the fighting game? Did ArcSys do this or someone else?

Hey man, like, I'm trying to get down on this new figther with all my friends. But like, yo, where are my just inputs? Where is my dash and grab? Where is my flawless defense? Where is my once per round barrier burst to escape a dangerous combo at just the right time? Where is my input on hit frame? Where is the variety in character playstyle? Where is my combo cancel? Even ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Naruto Ult Nin Storm 4 had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cancels.

WHERE IS THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CHARACTER ROSTER? I HAVE TO PICK 3 EVERY TIME? REALLY?! I ONLY LIKE THE ONE DUDE THOUGH. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OTHER ONES! WELL IF I HAVE TO PICK AND MY OPPONENT HAS TO PICK 3, WHERE ARE THE REST?! I WANT TO LEARN SOMEONE ELSE! Why is anti air so easy? Why is hit confirm off block so easy? Why does every character have the same gap close options and the exact same intercept options? Why do I have 7 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ki bars and I only need to fill up to lvl 3 and hit a special counter 2 times after a medium combo to finish any character? Aren't DBZ people known for being extremely tanky? Why does the ki bar fill up so fast? Why is it so damned easy to spam special attacks? Why do you get so many per round? Why don't fights last long enough?

Is this how bandwagon 2d team fighters play? Was MVC like this? No one gets a decent health bar because we have 3 characters to go through? Do I really need to wait until everyone in my group masters assist attacks, the perfect ♥♥♥♥♥ form of fighting where we can juggle each other for a sec and call in some invincible bastard to stack on some very free and extremely safe damage right quick? Why isn't there a 1v1 mode? Why aren't there any other modes aside from the standard and the 3v3 which is the only way to feel like you're playing a 1v1? Why is there a buff in arcade mode to make the NPC's do insane damage with ordinary auto mash combos? Why is there a tournament mode where you encounter the same teams of 3 at least 25 times? Why is this game like this? Why?

Who is responsible for this?

There doesn't seem to be enough depth in this game. They call it easy to pick up and hard to master. I stay away from games with descriptions like that. They tend to lack any real depth and any attention to detail. Yes, it is easy to pick up a game that practically plays itself on a beginner level. Yes it is hard to master a lack of a complete system and make do with what you have in order to make it at least look like a fully fleshed out fighter like Guilty Gear and Blaz Blue...Super ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bored with this game. Super ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disappointed. Why the hell am I still playing thoouuuuuuugh?

I want to stop. But I don't want to want to stop.

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Best advice I could say is just stick to Guilty Gear, this game is an entirely different beast with things only beginning to open up honestly, similar to MvC2 and 3, both games that, on the surface look simple enough, but in practice have a much, much higher skill ceiling. Personally the game manages to have a pretty decent and fulfilling learning curve as compared to fighters like Tekken and Guilty Gear where you spend the early hours of the game as a punching bag for the most part, not to say there is anything wrong with being mechanically intensive, especially considering that, from an objective stand point, Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator is probably one of the best fighting games of all time just in the sheer complexity and uniqueness the game has. There is a few things to keep in mind however, most importantly, Guilty Gear is a series which is about, if not, two decades old, so similar to something like Tekken for example, there are plenty of things they can carry over, while getting rid of what people dislike or just falls flat in the game, while keeping the more familiar mechanics and legacy abilities for characters that fans will enjoy.

Both of these also create a new issue in general though, piled on top of Arc Sys general poor decisions in DLC/expansions, they set a higher bar for entry than many games... not to mention the fact that Guilty Gear is already an anime fighter, further making it even more of a niche title among all the main stream fighters. Being simple to pick up, but hard to master in general is the best way to play things, and to say a games learning curve/ceiling is already met within the first month of its release is pretty short sighted. In any case though, there are quite a few points I agree with you on... the arcade mode for example, it feels like a cheap way to simply extend play time, and I personally believe the tournament mode could have been MUCH better for Singleplayer purposes... but, then again, thats not really why it exists. Not to mention the lobby acting as a menu is pretty meh. If they did ever go the route of something like KoF though with less characters being an option, I'd be all up for it, but seeing as how this game is VERY inspired by MvC, I doubt that will happen, and I am just fine with that since UMvC3, for all its shortcomings, was one of the best fighting games to date just on the sheer fun factor and how far you could really push yourself and stand out among other players of the said same characters, something this game has done fairly well so far as well, despite each character have very same-y elements outside of a select few (Hit, Frieza, and Yamcha come to mind, as they have very unique and different combo paths compared to the standard.). Though, I will say, there are certain characters that feel like they have a higher ceiling/curve while being same-y (18, 16, Cell, Beerus), and of course, the most standard fare of standard (Goku, Vegeta).

In any case, rambling a bit here, but I'd say give the game some time, or even take the survey/offer your thoughts up to Arcsys/Bamco, might effect future updates or future games even, as I for some reason doubt this will be the last Dragon Ball game by ArcSys with how successful it has turned out.

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Schizm

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:34

Remember kids don't drink and forum post.

Suntorias

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:35

git gud

Chokes

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:35

Damn dude why isn't this game literally just Guilty Gear

Suntorias

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:36

İlk olarak Chokes tarafından gönderildi:
Damn dude why isn't this game literally just Guilty Gear

You mean why isn't this Guilty Gear ekZard.

Codester

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:37

lol honestly I mostly agree and can't even argue with you on any points . But it's still really fun regardless, I'll be spending way more time playing it before moving back to a different fighter probably.

BrototypeH DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:41

Yeah. Why isn't it just Guilty Gear? It's fun, but that's all it is.It's not that good. There isn't enough to do, to unlock, to see, or enough to get good at. You basically learn an 8 point system of things to remember, practice it for 6 hours and you're golden like Freiza.

Ghost1447

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:42

loser

Suntorias

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:45

I can only repeat the stale mantra: If it's that simple, go win EVO, shouldn't be hard if you just put in the time to practice.

UltraSABER DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:52

Because this game is based off of MVC2. Ever heard of that very popular game? Clearly not, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bigot. If you only play and like one type of fighting game then you're literally the same as those who are told SF is all they can play. We get it, you play a hard fighting game. I know what Guilty Gear feels like because I love that game as well, but I'm not afraid to get used to other styles of fighting games unlike you. There is completely different tech to a "hyper fighting game", get used to it or leave. As simple as that.

Mike

7 Şub 2018 @ 16:59

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Ranmaru Rei DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 17:09

This game is different and, btw, has some mechanics, that GG or BB lack. Actually, I like this game, because it’s different. It did not try to be another GG, BB, P4A or UNiB. Actually, it did not try to be another MvC or Skullgirls. Yes, it looks easy, but it should be like this, because it’s Dragon Ball. And Dragon Ball has huge fan base. A game based on so huge franchise should not be hard. It still has some complicated stuff, not for everyone. Such characters as Hit, Ginyu, Beerus, Android 18. Damn, I’m more comfortable with Beerus and Android 21, than Vegeta SSJ. It has some depth: Smashes, Sparkle, Reflect, etc.

En son Ranmaru Rei tarafından düzenlendi; 7 Şub 2018 @ 17:10

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BrototypeH DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 17:16

Bigot? The ♥♥♥♥ you mad for? I can't have an opinion? lol. MVC2 was great, actually. It was on the original Xbox but I had it on the Dreamcast as well and I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of it. I've also played Dead or Alive since it was on the PS1.

I've played Mortal Kombat. Power Stone. SoulCalibur since it was called SoulBlade. Naruto fighters on the Playstation and the Gamecube. I've played tons of other fighting games. I've played fighters you should be glad you've never heard of because they were ♥♥♥♥. I never compared those games to BB or GG because they're not created by ArcSys who does know how to build a good system.

But instead of making something cool with a little optional depth by adding Stylish mode to it, like BB and GG, they just went the route of Persona 4 Arena Ultimax and I'm like whyyyyyyyyyyy though. I play fighting games. I like fighting games. I want to love this one, but I don't. I have the right to say so by creating my own discussion to cry and ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about said disappointment. This game is good. This game is not great.

I at least give some hint as to why I don't like it. They're valid questions. I'm willing to bet that anyone who has something stupid to say believes that I don't know how to play this game at all. I do. And I'm still playing. And I plan to keep playing until I S rank all the arcade modes. It's the least I can do for 60 damned dollars.

If you're going to get mad about reading someone's opinion on a video game you'd do yourself a much bigger favor and save yourself the stress by just not hanging out in places like this. Or are you a DBZ fanboy or something? Is that why your response was volatile and triggered?

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Swan Knight DRAGON BALL FighterZ sahibi

7 Şub 2018 @ 17:16

Dragon Ball FighterZ is really one of the best fighting games of all time. The hate from fanboys of other franchises are proof of it.

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Brandon

7 Şub 2018 @ 17:55

It's a fighting game. I might not be the type of fighting game you want, but it is certainly a fighting game.

This thread is comparable to going to the CSGO forum and claiming the game isn't a shooter because you can't rocket jump.

En son Brandon tarafından düzenlendi; 7 Şub 2018 @ 17:55

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