nerf goku black and c16

[ShayMo]

come at me whole dragonball fighterZ community

[Berserker]

nerf A16 too

[ShayMo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Berserker:

nerf A16 too

yeah

[strike478]

Goku black have all sorts of tools (save for special aerial beam), posses best 2H in the game and his normal are extraordinary. His combos tend to deal decent damage and charge meter with great rate.

About android 16.... I believe his H should have armour only when he got meter and when he gets hit during hit 1 bar would be automatically spent. Also basic mechanics give him too good mobility for grappler so they should also do something about it. Perhaps speed of super dash and Vanish attack shouldnt be exactly the same for whole cast. C'mon characters are faster and slower but when they fly or move quickly behind enemy (Vanish attack) they all are exactly as fast?

[Dug196]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ShayanMS:

come at me whole dragonball fighterZ community

in what way does goku black need nerfed. if you actually pay attention during the fight he aint hard to deal with. if you see him do a kamehameha and it has a somwhat longer animation than normal guess what you can react to it so that zamasu doesnt grab you. i assume one of the things that you think is broken with him is the teleport overhead. well guess what. that is reacable as well. as soon as you see him do the instant transmision animation which literally causes him to STAND COMPLETELY STILL FOR A MOMENT you can use down heavy and send him flying into the air and you get a free combo. if he uses the cross up one that is noticable as well. just pay attention and quit complaining. if enough people like you start saying "nerf this character and nerf that character" they might just do it. and then guess what. you ruin the game for everyone cause they will nerf characters that dont need nerfing making them completely useless and weak. this game already has a small roster do you want to limit it even more? good god just pay attention. its a fighting game.
Edit: i know this isnt everything you probably have problems with with him. but i assume these are the biggest reasons you made this post. ive found most people who make a comment saying nerf a character in fighting games usually just look at the surface of a character and assume they are broken. all the while not trying to understand it

[76561198407601200]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Madara:

just pay attention and quit complaining. if enough people like you start saying "nerf this character and nerf that character" they might just do it. and then guess what. you ruin the game for everyone cause they will nerf characters that dont need nerfing making them completely useless and weak.

With just this part I quoted, I could easily be fooled into thinking you were speaking about tf2. That game is a prime example of what we don't want to happen to fighterz. I've stopped playing it once the nerfing got out of control. And it's simply because some players couldn't counter other classes, despite others being able to do it just fine.

[MOOEY]

i truly dont understand why people think Black is OP. yall suck. Seriously. he's good, yes, but OP? ♥♥♥♥ outta here. What does he do that's OP? He is a jack of all trades but not a master of any. His pressure is good but not Cell/Gohan Adult good. His Oki is good but not 18/16/cell good. He has a beam. Beams are good but no where near busted. Good air approaches but its nothing oppressive. He's good, yes. OP would mean he's a problem.

[hasa eem limon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ShayanMS:

come at me whole dragonball fighterZ community

c16?
i think u mean a16

[Ranmaru Rei]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von strike478:

About android 16.... I believe his H should have armour only when he got meter and when he gets hit during hit 1 bar would be automatically spent.

Meter-drain normal O_o

[ShayMo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Madara:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ShayanMS:

come at me whole dragonball fighterZ community

in what way does goku black need nerfed. if you actually pay attention during the fight he aint hard to deal with. if you see him do a kamehameha and it has a somwhat longer animation than normal guess what you can react to it so that zamasu doesnt grab you. i assume one of the things that you think is broken with him is the teleport overhead. well guess what. that is reacable as well. as soon as you see him do the instant transmision animation which literally causes him to STAND COMPLETELY STILL FOR A MOMENT you can use down heavy and send him flying into the air and you get a free combo. if he uses the cross up one that is noticable as well. just pay attention and quit complaining. if enough people like you start saying "nerf this character and nerf that character" they might just do it. and then guess what. you ruin the game for everyone cause they will nerf characters that dont need nerfing making them completely useless and weak. this game already has a small roster do you want to limit it even more? good god just pay attention. its a fighting game.
Edit: i know this isnt everything you probably have problems with with him. but i assume these are the biggest reasons you made this post. ive found most people who make a comment saying nerf a character in fighting games usually just look at the surface of a character and assume they are broken. all the while not trying to understand it

his damage is way to high of course others also have high damage but when you compare his combo with my yamcha or gotenks combo its just a way too big difference

[Cpt. Kid]

Goku black is better than Goku white?

[supersand]

My only wishes for this game is that Goku Black gets some hitbox nerfs, Android 16 gets some kind of small nerf, and that Kid Buu's Y combo gets less damage for how spamable it is.

[SolidusPrime]

no

[Jirai]

nerf nobody you casual scrubs...just buff others....you like that characters get cut by their combo variety?.....screaming the whole day for nerfs and making no suggestion what to nerf....IMHO they should just adapt the damage of characters and thats it. This game is a combo game so please DO NOT cut the characters combo variety! Also its a fighting game. There will always be toptier and lowtier chars. Shouldn't matter for the most people that arent playing at a high tournament level.
You can also change hardknockdowns into non-hardknockdowns and stuff but I hope that people won't cry that much or it will happen like in SF5 that some combo possibilties are just gone which is imho super-b u l l s h i t.

I also do NOT understand why people like to nerf BlackGokus hitbox when you have 16s crossup which has a megagood hitbox as well.

[ShayMo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jiraish1n:

nerf nobody you casual scrubs...just buff others....you like that characters get cut by their combo variety?.....screaming the whole day for nerfs and making no suggestion what to nerf....IMHO they should just adapt the damage of characters and thats it. This game is a combo game so please DO NOT cut the characters combo variety! Also its a fighting game. There will always be toptier and lowtier chars. Shouldn't matter for the most people that arent playing at a high tournament level.
You can also change hardknockdowns into non-hardknockdowns and stuff but I hope that people won't cry that much or it will happen like in SF5 that some combo possibilties are just gone which is imho super-b u l l s h i t.

I also do NOT understand why people like to nerf BlackGokus hitbox when you have 16s crossup which has a megagood hitbox as well.

youre actually true with the damage

[Dick N Balls]

NERF c16 yes but not Goku black his attacks make so minimal damage his speacial move makes 4000 damage thats NOTHING for a speacial move