Things about DBZ cannon that make you confused or cringe

[BlackBlitzkrieg]

This topic is just for fun and for fans to both geek out about certain quibbles they have or inconsistencies that make them annoyed. I started responding to someone on another forum and I had a lot to get off my chest. This is all in jest but I'm curious what everyone else's irritations are :)

1) That time during the Namek saga where everyone is wished back to earth and Vegeta beats Gohan senseless and then flies off only for the next episode to retconn that and act like it never happened.

2) That time SSJ Goku was fighting Frieza and seemingly died(got smacked into lava) only to get wished back by Shenron and for that to be very very frustratingly vague.

3) Frieza saying planet Namek will explode in 5 minutes and 5 minutes equals 25 episodes later.

4) Frieza blowing up Namek and not instantly winning.

5) Dr. Gero building Androids that are conveniently stronger than Frieza and don't ever run out of energy.

6) Dr. Gero building Androids that are conveniently stronger than Frieza and don't ever run out of energy And didn't program a means of controlling them or a fail safe to make them obedient.

7) Goku having issues killing people as an adult when as a child he took the lives of Piccolo and an entire army of humans and kinda killed King Kai.

8) The fact that no one has to this date ever used the Solar Flare + Destructo Disc Combination in battle.

9) The obnoxiously amorphous power scaling that has taken place through out the series regarding power levels in general. During the Saiyan saga they could blow up planets and now they can I'm assuming destroy reality?

10) The existence of Gods of destruction when the Kais were getting their s*** kicked in by Buu and evidentially if Kai's die so do their respective Gods of Destruction.

11) The fact that the other Z warriors haven't all gone to Elder Kai to get their potential unlocked to try to keep up with the Blues Brothers(Goku & Vegeta).

12) The fact that Bulma and Vegeta are even a thing considering he has no job and killed most of her friends, was planning to blow up the planet and kinda killed her ex. They're a cute couple and Trunks is awesome but seriously that just warps my brain into another dimension.

13) The stupidity Goku displays in Super.

14) Gohan's powering down in Super.

15) Goku not actively teaching his friends his techniques nor teaching strangers how to fly or fight for money and as a side hustle.

16) No one teaches Chi Chi to fly.

17) The only villain chosen to participate in the tournament of power is Frieza when Cell and the others might've helped.

18) Where the f*** is Pikkon!?

19) Before the tournament of power everyone didn't stop by Elder Kai for potential unlocking.

20) Retconning Potara Earrings in Super.

21) Trunks defeating Fused Zamasu in Super.

22) Baby in GT.

21) The Evil Dragons in GT.

23) Goku having to be a little kid in GT and them never wishing him back into being an adult so Chi Chi isn't a pedophile.

24) Goten getting less characterization than Hercule.

25) Goku teleporting an exploding Cell to King Kai's planet and not actively trying to save King Kai. He could've sent them to that Snake lady on Snake way or to hell where no one would've cared.

26) Cell exploding in another dimension only to return saying he's healed, has new powers and is now going to blow up the planet by shooting a horizontal blast at Gohan. He also didn't one shot Gohan and kill him before blowing up the planet.

27) Super Vegito, Gotenks, and Mystic Gohan all failing to defeat their respective opponents when they had one job.

28) Power scaling making everyone who isn't a Saiyan useless.

29) Retconning of how to go Super Saiyan.

30) Honestly, any form past SS1 kinda makes me sigh and feel old. Looking at you Ultra Instinct

31) Kinda want Chi Chi to power up and get involved in the fighting of the series.

32) The fact that one of the most legendary antagonists of the series has the worst motivations to be a sociopath. KAKAROOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

33) The fact that one of the most legendary antagonists of the series has the worst motivations to be a sociopath AND isn't cannon. but Kale is. KAKAROOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

34) The fact that Super is doing nothing to actively make GT not canon and will seemingly lead into GT.

32) Not knowing what happend to those orphans Gohan ran into when he was running away from Piccolo in the wilderness as a child. (That whole episode gave me like the most intense feels)

36) Knowing Goten and Trunks will never get a training arc as epic as Gohan's with Piccolo but somehow get to go Super Saiyan. Kids these days....

37) Everything about Marron. She so pointless. Also I think she should've dated Yamcha. She looks like Bulma and he's rich.

38) Android 17's power boost in Super because reasons.

39) The fact that Android 18 is called an Android when she can reproduce which makes her a cyborg.(right? Im pretty sure thats a thing.)

40) Shenron can't turn Android 18 into a human but she can give reproduce offspring with Krillin which should classify her as a human...-_-

40) Android 18 still doesn't have a proper name despite giving her daughter a name.

41) The fact that Krillin named his daughter after his ex girlfriend. WTF is wrong with you!?

42) Krillin wished the bombs out of the Androids but in Super; 17 somehow still manages to blow himself up at will.

43) That Garlic Jr defeats himself twice in the same way.

44) A lotta things in GT. The Black Star Balls, the bad guys excluding Super Android 17 because for some reason I found him and Omega Shenron to be badass.

45) Frieza's power scaling makes him strong to the point he seems stupid for not killing everyone sooner during the Namek arc's final battle.

46) Goku's brother Raditz is just a giant wasted plot point. Doesn't even look like Bardock...

And despite all this I still kinda like the series.

[Swan Knight]

Цитата допису BlackBlitzkrieg:

Цитата допису High Elf:

Imagine a fight against this guy:

http://www.kamisama.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/porunga_esferas.jpg

Design wise I'm like f*** yeah but story wise I'm a tad hesitant. Though granted they did kinda act a fool with the Namekian Dragon Balls during the the final throwes of the Namekian Arc which gives some story relevance at least regarding the Dragon Balls getting all dark.

You know the idea of Alladin, right? Where Jafar asked to be omnipotent like a genie, but was cursed to be a slave.

So, Porunga and Shenlong could have being bad guys from the past wich were sealed inside Dragon Balls. So, something happens that finally unseal them, and we have a new DB arc.

[DRC The Gamer]

Цитата допису BlackBlitzkrieg:

Цитата допису High Elf:

Imagine a fight against this guy:

http://www.kamisama.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/porunga_esferas.jpg

Design wise I'm like f*** yeah but story wise I'm a tad hesitant. Though granted they did kinda act a fool with the Namekian Dragon Balls during the the final throwes of the Namekian Arc which gives some story relevance at least regarding the Dragon Balls getting all dark.

Compared to Super. GT is a masterpiece. It's clear there wasn't any thought put into dragon ball super. The ONLY reason it's even remotely successful is because many fans are blinded by nostalgia. Toei was at least thinking outside of the box with GT. That means they were trying to produce a story that made sense. Hardly anything in Super makes any sense. Also, Goku isn't a mental ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in GT