Garbage Farmers Dynasty review on Rock Paper Shotgun.

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

Brendan Caldwell wrote a review about FD and calls the game garbage. I would categorize his review about FD in the same manner(link of the review below). Why i state his review with garbage because Brendan brings toxic discussions to the table why not gay merriage in FD to give an example.

This topic is for those who are doing there research befor they decide if they want to buy Farmers Dynasty or not. Because honestly the game is expensive in it's current state.

The question is, is this game worth your money. Well if you like for example Farming Simulator 20XX as i do. Yes in my oppinion this game is better although still in a rough state. The biggest problem FS has is context and the goal why you farm. FS gets extremely boring. Maps are boring only community created maps are good like Oakfield. But the farming experience due to the outdated graphics engine used(DX9) are bad. FD has a more modern 3d engine wich gives you a taste of real farming and gives field plowing a new meaning : ).

FS costs also too much the DLC's are ridiculous overpriced. FD becomes cheap then. In short it's all about context, grinding a new tractor just for the sake of grinding a new tractor is superboring. Then they release a new DLC to get more equipment to grind. And this goes on for years. FD gives it a new approach gives it more context.

FD has more potential then FS but FD should incorporate things wich FS does rigtht. A modding community without that FS would be long gone by now.

Review link:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/01/04/farmers-dynasty-early-access-sim/#comment-2565417

--- Note: this topic gets an update later this day ---

For those who wan't to see what this game is all about you can watch my Twitch stream where i am more then willing to help you with questions or demonstrate what this game is all about.

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

Mysticalmaid님이 먼저 게시:

I take issue with the original poster here calling gay marriage toxic. Got no time for homophobes, racists, sexist people and it's the duty of all good people to call it out for the nastiness it is.

I think the review was poorly written and not well thought out, although it had flagged some valid points, I strongly feel it was unfair to omit the fact this game is in Early Access and not a fully finished game. Perhaps a lot of people should email RPS and complain about that omission making the review a highly biased and unfair one.

What i ment Mysticmaid, the reviewer was bringing topics to the table wich will only lead to toxic discussions and will soon not even going about the game itself anymore.

But since you find it necessary to attack me about gay merriage and are looking for a fight here you can have it. The designer of merriage is God so good luck with Him in arguing about the things He is doing wrong in your eyes. Tell us afterwards how well it did work out for you!!

[Merck]

I have to agree with xxXHonestJohnXxx, in that the article did appear to me to have a bias against the church & marriage aspects of the game. I don't believe that this game is 'overly' trying to push church on everyone, more like it is just another quest 'job' to do. Other than the first quest at the church, I don't see it giving out any more points than other spots. And that first spot seems to have been listed more as a meeting spot than a "go to worship" event.

As to the marriage aspect of the game, I don't think it is being forced upon the players. Else, I would assume the Dev's would make it 'way' easier to do. And they have already stated that the player themselves will have the ability to make some of the middle-level foods shortly. And I don't think I have heard of anyone starving so far even without being able to cook foods.

And with so many comments about the attractiveness of the ladies in the game, I am thinking a lot of players will likely not bother with the marriage aspects at all.
Just my two cents worth

[Kaeru Gaman]

xxXHonestJohnXxx님이 먼저 게시:

But since you find it necessary to attack me about gay merriage and are looking for a fight here you can have it. The designer of merriage is God so good luck with Him in arguing about the things He is doing wrong in your eyes. Tell us afterwards how well it did work out for you!!

could you just stop this?
keep discussion about religion and policy where they belong to.
not in a forum about an early access game.

[Drek Durshell]

Who bother's with games review sites anymore?
It's just SJW garbage.

Most of them aren't gamers, but people who didn't know what to do with their gender studies degree.

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

Kaeru Gaman님이 먼저 게시:

xxXHonestJohnXxx님이 먼저 게시:

But since you find it necessary to attack me about gay merriage and are looking for a fight here you can have it. The designer of merriage is God so good luck with Him in arguing about the things He is doing wrong in your eyes. Tell us afterwards how well it did work out for you!!

could you just stop this?
keep discussion about religion and policy where they belong to.
not in a forum about an early access game.

Did you reply in the same manner to Mysticalmaid?

[Kaeru Gaman]

your first sentence was well balanced.

xxXHonestJohnXxx님이 먼저 게시:

What i ment Mysticmaid, the reviewer was bringing topics to the table wich will only lead to toxic discussions and will soon not even going about the game itself anymore.

why don't just stop with this?

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

Drek Durshell님이 먼저 게시:

Who bother's with games review sites anymore?
It's just SJW garbage.

Most of them aren't gamers, but people who didn't know what to do with their gender studies degree.

I fully agree to your point of view 'we could care less about gamereviewing sites' But a fair review is in our best interest because the way economics work.

The developers released the game as early access for 2 economical reasons.

1. Gamedevelopment cost a lot of money wich is a problem for beginning companies. You need to pay a development team for say a year without income.

2. Also to make a game more successfull(think about the modding community of the FS series)
You get the community involved into the development process grow yourself a solid playerbase(economical) and you can get away with a game in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ kind of state gamewise spoken.

For those players(me included) wich love the initial concept of this game yet fully aware of it's current state. Unfair bad reviews are against our interests not only for the developers. We who like this game want a playerbase as big as possible, so the money keeps flowing in and the developers get a steady cashflow so they can afford it to put more effort in developent.

I am fully aware this is a symplistic overview but it's generally speaking how things work.

The part wich upsets me the most about the review, is that this reviewer in search for ammunition needs to bring gay merriage for example to the table. Yes let's bring the LGBT community in so we can volume the outrage more in favour of the reviewer. This i called toxic reasons wich shouldn't be appear into the review.

And i was totally right Mysticalmaid finds it necessary to call me homophobic, no i am not afraid of the gay community. But i am afraid of discussions wich leads away from the main topic.

Bottomline, conceptwise Farmers Dynasty is a nice and unique game for the genre, and i can only hope for our and the devs sake they are allowed to develop there vision for this game further listening to the community when appropriate. And we all have a heck of a ride in this game.

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

xxXHonestJohnXxx님이 먼저 게시:

Drek Durshell님이 먼저 게시:

Who bother's with games review sites anymore?
It's just SJW garbage.

Most of them aren't gamers, but people who didn't know what to do with their gender studies degree.

I fully agree to your point of view 'we could care less about gamereviewing sites' But a fair review is in our best interest because the way economics work.

The developers released the game as early access for 2 economical reasons.

1. Gamedevelopment cost a lot of money wich is a problem for beginning companies. You need to pay a development team for say a year without income.

2. Also to make a game more successfull(think about the modding community of the FS series)
You get the community involved into the development process grow yourself a solid playerbase(economical) and you can get away with a game in a 'we all know' kind of state gamewise spoken.

For those players(me included) wich love the initial concept of this game yet fully aware of it's current state. Unfair bad reviews are against our interests not only for the developers. We who like this game want a playerbase as big as possible, so the money keeps flowing in and the developers get a steady cashflow so they can afford it to put more effort in developent.

I am fully aware this is a symplistic overview but it's generally speaking how things work.

The part wich upsets me the most about the review, is that this reviewer in search for ammunition needs to bring gay merriage for example to the table. Yes let's bring the LGBT community in so we can volume the outrage more in favour of the reviewer. This i called toxic reasons wich shouldn't be appear into the review.

And i was totally right Mysticalmaid finds it necessary to call me homophobic, no i am not afraid of the gay community. But i am afraid of discussions wich leads away from the main topic.

Bottomline, conceptwise Farmers Dynasty is a nice and unique game for the genre, and i can only hope for our and the devs sake they are allowed to develop there vision for this game further listening to the community when appropriate. And we all have a heck of a ride in this game.

[Mysticalmaid]

I don't believe in any God so with reference to how your God will deal with me when I get "there" if there is a there, I am positive that the good and kind person that I am will be good enough, and if I were Gay I am sure that would not be an issue either, perhaps my gay religious cousin can let me know.

Going back to the review.. I don't feel it was a fair review at all, it seemed overly harsh, they make comments about how you can't do certain things in it, well you can't do those things in Farming Simulator either, has that reviewer even played a Farming Simulator game? They compared it to Stardew Valley, not really a fair reference, in any case Stardew Valley was based off Harvest Moon which the reviewer doesn't seem to realise.

I think Farming Dynasty is doing it's own thing, it's not The Sims, or Harvest Moon or Stardew Valley, (all of which I've played) it's adding some much needed new gameplay aspects to a Farming Sim genre. I'm curious to see where this game will end up, but I won't be paying any attention to rubbish reviews like that, I'll be watching the Let's Plays of other Farm Sim players, like Daggerwin to form my opinions.

I'd like to have a female main character, I was thrilled when FS17 added a female option, finally I can be female in my games too.

[Trace]

Eh, maybe we'll get the gay farmer expansion where you can grow organic kale in vacant lots in some abandoned rust belt city and sell it off at the nearest Whole Foods

[Iboone]

I have almost all the farm games on Steam so far and none makes such a homophobic impression as the dynasty series, whether Fixed Main Story or not, one should keep the option open for those who identify themselves differently. Well, it's their game development and they certainly have a different target audience, but please, it's 2020 and main stories should include this option.
Strange that even games like Harvestmoon can be dragged along.
The game is really more than just interesting, but I don't support that.

[xxXHonestJohnXxx]

The devs should never implement gay merriage. And i hope they stick with there initial decision.

[Včelí medvídek]

Well the whole marriage in FD is just meh anyway..

The interaction feels overall very generic as with rest NPC on map, the lifecycle as well and dont make sense

So only thing you can put in is own imagination:
"hello Wife you are still picking up nonexisting weed from same spot in front of our house? till late night as every single day?"
"yes Honey I do...":p

It is nowhere near to NPCs like Stardew Valley has for example. (that is nothing superior but at least things have some logic, there is soem relation development and you can recognize one character or personality from others)

I have read that OP review from 2018 and I see and agree with generally all the points of author (and I see nothing like some bs about religion or gay marriages, that is no point at all - though of course it is possible it was edited out in the meantime) - and even though people might wished otherwise back than hoping game will develop form its Early access I see no improvement - It feels like it is stuck in that EA stage and abandoned there. (and it is almost 3 years, nothing so small)

I have just bought FS19 on current sale and so far it seems to be much better game than FD (and what is interesting it seems to use same or very similar assets or controls... like if one game was copied form other) - like yes FD "might" get better, something like more realistic Stardew with machines and adult graphic in believable social community and farmer life, some essence of small town - however it utterly fails at it and NPCs are more pain and generic random map runners than enjoyable experince in some community I could belive in. So after all years later it dont offer more than farming mechanic - that is good in its realism and physics but gameplay ways it is unbalanced and flawed.

I would never say FD is garbage though - even though it fails in what it wants to deliver in my eyes, it is super calming tractor simulator. There is somethign addicting on that as well (confirmed by fact I spent some 120 hours in it already:p

[Zwajo[MG]]

Iboone님이 먼저 게시:

I have almost all the farm games on Steam so far and none makes such a homophobic impression as the dynasty series, whether Fixed Main Story or not, one should keep the option open for those who identify themselves differently. Well, it's their game development and they certainly have a different target audience, but please, it's 2020 and main stories should include this option.
Strange that even games like Harvestmoon can be dragged along.
The game is really more than just interesting, but I don't support that.

I disagree entirely. There is absolutely no onus on developers/writers/tv shows etc to take anything other than THIER story into account. Farmers dynasty is about a heterosexual male inheriting a small farm and living his life. THATS THE STORY. If you want story about a trisexual gender fluid nonconformist farmer.. WRITE YOUR STORY/GAME/TV SHOW. SJW's need to understand that only a creator gets to dictate the tale not them, and their agendas. Your personal identity has jack to do with the story the game is telling. I didn't play Last of US 2 and get pissed cause I couldn't make her straight, I accepted the story they were telling and went with it... because its their story not mine.

[HARRocK]

Mysticalmaid님이 먼저 게시:

I take issue with the original poster here calling gay marriage toxic. Got no time for homophobes, racists, sexist people and it's the duty of all good people to call it out for the nastiness it is.

I think the review was poorly written and not well thought out, although it had flagged some valid points, I strongly feel it was unfair to omit the fact this game is in Early Access and not a fully finished game. Perhaps a lot of people should email RPS and complain about that omission making the review a highly biased and unfair one.

I got a problem with you you are toxic :o