Will There Going to be a Direct Sequel?

[lacivert]

(First of all, I don't count Snowrunner as a direct sequel due to Pavel (Original developer of Spintires and Mudrunner) not being on the Snowrunner's developer team (thus having clearly less realistic offroad experience than Mudrunner))

Since Snowrunner's release, there wasn't any announcements about Mudrunner's updates and Since Mudrunner's content is getting completed by many (including me) and no extra DLCs/Updates on the way. I am thinking;

Is a sequal with Pavel's (maybe even improved) offroad physics possible? (Since i played Spintires and Mudrunner for it's realistic offroad physics) Is he still on the game development scene and is he still working with Saber?

[James]

Publicado originalmente por lazersynth:

Since Mudrunner's content is getting completed by many (including me) and no extra DLCs/Updates on the way.

I've not seen any indications of a MR 2 on the horizon. But anything is possible, anytime.
The available DLCs are fun, and yes, you are probably right that most of us have seemingly "completed" the vanilla content by now. However, the amount of high quality vehicles and maps available in the workshop is massive. It's like endless DLCs for free (thanks all modders!).

It would be interesting to see a MR 2 with extended/improved game mechanics, perhaps more varying weather effects?, freeze/thaw cycles? and/or dynamic water levels? etc.

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por James:

Publicado originalmente por lazersynth:

Since Mudrunner's content is getting completed by many (including me) and no extra DLCs/Updates on the way.

I've not seen any indications of a MR 2 on the horizon. But anything is possible, anytime.
The available DLCs are fun, and yes, you are probably right that most of us have seemingly "completed" the vanilla content by now. However, the amount of high quality vehicles and maps available in the workshop is massive. It's like endless DLCs for free (thanks all modders!).

It would be interesting to see a MR 2 with extended/improved game mechanics, perhaps more varying weather effects?, freeze/thaw cycles? and/or dynamic water levels? etc.

I really like to see Pavel improving his physics system more.
I don't believe on it's improvement not being possible. Thinking he kept improving his physics system since 2008!
https://youtu.be/jW-DQmxsVlY
I also really like to see a Mudrunner 2, if he is not with Saber anymore, maybe a different game under his name?

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por Strawberry:

it would be nice, but i find it very doubtful. will agree in that SR is it's own thing imo. SR is what a lot of people wanted (aka more game play and depth) than the original sandbox style game could give. personally i like the sandbox style of the first 2. i just want to hop in the game and have fun doing what i want. i am not a fan of the new forced objectives and such. i say forced since you have to progress to open up more of the game. will they remake something like the originals? doubtful, maybe at best they will add a "sandbox mode" more like they way it used to be like the first 2 were. i think there would be more of a chance to see an ST2 than MR2. after all SR is the next version for the series. for MR/SR to take a step back as a lot of people would see it does not make a lot of sense. however since ST is it's own thing now maybe with some luck ST2 could be a possibility.

Spintires is a lost cause in my opinion thinking Saber pretty much more dominant on the lawsuits by Oovee not doing anything major. So Spintires being on Steam is even has a very low possibility. But as i said, If Pavel is still on Saber, maybe Mudrunner 2 is possible (but maybe they won't allow him thinking that might decrease some Snowrunner players)

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por Strawberry:

i just meant that i could see ST make a comeback of sorts and maybe come out with a sequel, since obviously MR is now SR. i can not see them going back, only forward. now maybe with some luck they will add a sandbox mode more like the original game was as a part of the game, but i can not see them making MR2 on its own.

Actually, yea, you are right about that. But i don't think Spintires making a comeback thinking Oovee is pretty much unactive. Maybe they can win a lawsuit out of sheer luck (which is a possibility of a lottery atm) and only save Spintires, so "Spintires 2" is not a very possible thing either.

Maybe Pavel might go only by himself and create some stuff on his own, that would be SO cool but i don't think he will do that. We don't even know if he is making games anymore (well, atleast i don't know it, inform me if somebody knows).

[MudRunner Maniac]

Publicado originalmente por Strawberry:

i just meant that i could see ST make a comeback of sorts and maybe come out with a sequel, since obviously MR is now SR. i can not see them going back, only forward. now maybe with some luck they will add a sandbox mode more like the original game was as a part of the game, but i can not see them making MR2 on its own.

Now that's the attitude I like to see! lol, I think you could possibly be onto something! I think it would make way more sense to come out with a new Spintires 2, Obviously it's a great off-road simulation game or we wouldn't be making such a big deal about the game in all of our discussions, I have no plans to give up on the game whether it updates or not! Oh...And my apologies (Strawberry) for my crappy comment in the earlier discussion lol

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por Rock Crawling Maniac:

Publicado originalmente por Strawberry:

i just meant that i could see ST make a comeback of sorts and maybe come out with a sequel, since obviously MR is now SR. i can not see them going back, only forward. now maybe with some luck they will add a sandbox mode more like the original game was as a part of the game, but i can not see them making MR2 on its own.

Now that's the attitude I like to see! lol, I think you could possibly be onto something! I think it would make way more sense to come out with a new Spintires 2, Obviously it's a great off-road simulation game or we wouldn't be making such a big deal about the game in all of our discussions, I have no plans to give up on the game whether it updates or not! Oh...And my apologies (Strawberry) for my crappy comment in the earlier discussion lol

But how it will return?

[MudRunner Maniac]

It may or may not return, But anything is possible!

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por Rock Crawling Maniac:

It may or may not return, But anything is possible!

I really don't agree with your high level hopes but this time it is something i can agree on.
It returned few times till now. Maybe lawsuits can result in Spintires returning (or not) but who knows?

Sucks that an important lawsuit like this took almost a decade.

[TheOrangeBox]

More likely some indie developers taking advantage of UE5 and develop a product similar to Spintire-Mudrunner and get on STEAM early access to fund the game development.
Just needs committed people with an honest vision true to the Spintires soul to make it happen.

[TheOrangeBox]

Publicado originalmente por lazersynth:

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Sucks that an important lawsuit like this took almost a decade.

The parties did settle though. But no much of public info is available on what settlement was reached.

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por TheOrangeBox:

More likely some indie developers taking advantage of UE5 and develop a product similar to Spintire-Mudrunner and get on STEAM early access to fund the game development.
Just needs committed people with an honest vision true to the Spintires soul to make it happen.

I don't think there are so many people that can do it. But it is possible for sure.

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por TheOrangeBox:

Publicado originalmente por lazersynth:

Sucks that an important lawsuit like this took almost a decade.

The parties did settle though. But no much of public info is available on what settlement was reached.

Looks like Oovee isn't the one with the benefit. Thinking Spintires is still out of Steam.

[lacivert]

Publicado originalmente por Leenuks:

Yes I would love to see a MudRunner 2. SnowRunner is what MudRunner should of been

I think what Snowrunner lacks (as i said many times) is Pavel's physics engine and the sandboxy feel of Spintires and Mudrunner, it doesn't have the same feel as Mudrunner and Spintires. So I can't say Snowrunner is a worse game than Mudrunner but what i can say is it's just doesn't work as a sequel to me.

a Sequel for Mudrunner/Spintires gotta have more realistic physics engine, more extreme offroad conditions, more Siberian trucks (or remastered models of original models) and new maps (Which Mudrunner kinda failed because vanilla maps shares the same terrain and Trucks were pretty much the same, even with First Person mode you can see the lack of detail on the interior (thinking Spintires didn't had a First Person camera)).

[lacivert]

When you think about it Mudrunner is not even a real sequel for Spintires. It's just a continuation of the game from Oovee to Saber. It has minor improvements, same maps, same vehicles. I can say that some important changes like Gear patern going from "V/E" to "H", Log unloading music* etc. would've been also added to Spintires if Pavel continued to work with Oovee. Since we technically have one game in our hands, i'm more willing to hear a new Spintires/Mudrunner style game.

* = Here's a video of Pavel showing old Spintires with Mudrunner's unloading music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-LD58oCqQ