Will MudRunner have more than 4 player multiplayer?

[_HL4E_HalfLife_]

What the title says, will Mudrunner have more than 4 player multiplayer?

[mendel]

The store page explicitly says "4 player-coop", so your answer is "no".

[Kosm1cznY]

If gameplay would be much more than just delivering logs then I think 6-8 players would be possible. But for current gameplay mechanics 4 is max.

[mendel]

The problem is not the gameplay mechanics, especially now that we can have bigger maps. The problem is techical issues keeping everyone synched without dedicated servers.

[Kosm1cznY]

I have no knowledge about that byt it is weird that more than 4 players is magic barrier.

[mendel]

Nobody said it is a magic barrier.

With 4 players, the host needs to send information on 3 players to 3 players = upload overhead 9
With 5 players, it is 16, with 6, 25.
On the DSL line I had, my barrier was 2-3 players, on the release version of Spintires, I simply did not have enough bandwidth to host 4 players. For quite a few players, 4 was borderline, the game would start fine but then develop lag, until Pavel simplified the syncing and reduced the communication overhead--after that, we encountered few games that suffered from lag.

So, as a game dev, you need to choose a number that works for most players, or they will complain and insult you. It's not a magic barrier, it's a trade-off.

[_HL4E_HalfLife_]

It would be nice to be able to have more than 4 because I play with about 5 other friends.

[Kosm1cznY]

Originally posted by mendel:

Nobody said it is a magic barrier.

With 4 players, the host needs to send information on 3 players to 3 players = upload overhead 9
With 5 players, it is 16, with 6, 25.
On the DSL line I had, my barrier was 2-3 players, on the release version of Spintires, I simply did not have enough bandwidth to host 4 players. For quite a few players, 4 was borderline, the game would start fine but then develop lag, until Pavel simplified the syncing and reduced the communication overhead--after that, we encountered few games that suffered from lag.

So, as a game dev, you need to choose a number that works for most players, or they will complain and insult you. It's not a magic barrier, it's a trade-off.

Ok I understand. Well to be honest thinking about that I realise that more games have 4 player max in coop :)