SNOWRUNNER is no good.

[Digressive (1-800-WAA-TATA)]

So i watch worthtobuy and as expected you guys failed miserably... I guess i wont even buy on steam either. Ho and by the way i wonder why there's censorship in the forum. Are you trying to mute in case of a massive backlash?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VBumiNo80A

[Allozorro]

Hi, we just follow the rules of Steam discussions. Discussion of a non-Steam game is offtopic.
These topics only prevent other players from finding the information they need. Nobody forbids you to express your point of view about SnowRunner. On the contrary, it is most welcome. But you need to do this on the appropriate resources. You can freely post your comment on the Official forum or the Discord. All links in a pinned post.

I will not move this topic yet (but this is an exception). If you have any questions, ask.

[James]

I believe the bad critizism is only an indicator of how much we really care for this series. It is extremely fun gameplay (MR and all). It also has a very dedicated community & brilliant modmaking talents. We want the same for SR. In difficult times (pandemic) it is hard to deliver new titles on time, no doubt, but we - the simnerds - hope for patching, naturally. And it will come, no doubt. The question is, to what extent will SR become MR 2?

So with that said, I hope we can keep a discussion about SR vs MR in the spirit of elevating SR into something that satisfies even the most devoted/steadfast Spintires/MR fan.

I, for one, was looking forward to SR but has backed down due to the lack of/unfinished sim elements. But hey, I can go on with MR for a long time (partly, thanks to the modders). I'll just give SR some time and I'm sure I'll jump in.

Thank you Allozorro for giving this topic a chance on Steam!

[edit] Just saw that youtube video above, it was really off... could not even see it through. Many of the points made did not apply to me as a Mudrunner at all.

[Allozorro]

Let's try in the form of an experiment, but exactly until all this develops into insults to each other. As with most previous topics.

[Procuarable_One]

The new features are great and I like the new load types. However there is so much wrong with the game that I hope they fix. Worst of which is the fact that the mud resets after you travel just a short distance away. I cannot stand this because it makes you feel like you have never been through an area before, and you are going back and forth constantly. Also the engine sounds are terrible. There is not even a list of keyboard buttons. NO KEY MAPPING LIST! Which also makes it so you cannot change the keys! Steering wheels don't work, I could go on, but its not worth it. Unless you never played the series and are a extreme casual its not worth a buy,

[James]

Hi Nias, and thanks for the report.
The persistent mud/terrain/downed vegetation was a great feature of MR. Sad to hear it's gone (can someoe confirm this?). Hopefully, it will be back. In spintires it was even persistent between saves at some point. Details like this is super-important in order to keep mudrunners interested in SR.

The key-mapping issue I did not know of. The wheel issue I knew. I can see a list emerging of things that we want to keep/re-implemented in SR. Not sure it will ever serve as constructive feedback, but we can at least try.

[Procuarable_One]

Originally posted by James:

Hi Nias, and thanks for the report.
The persistent mud/terrain/downed vegetation was a great feature of MR. Sad to hear it's gone (can someoe confirm this?). Hopefully, it will be back. In spintires it was even persistent between saves at some point. Details like this is super-important in order to keep mudrunners interested in SR.

The key-mapping issue I did not know of. The wheel issue I knew. I can see a list emerging of things that we want to keep/re-implemented in SR. Not sure it will ever serve as constructive feedback, but we can at least try.

I can confirm it, I own all three games. Spintires still has mud memory even between saves. Mudrunner resets on save load. Snowrunner resets after you leave the immediate area.

[Yoepie]

SR is all about money, nothing more.
MR itself is only money. Before anyone goes against it, there are no new options in MR, only 4 dlc, and you have to buy one of them. undervalued trucks and maps. And all the old stuf was already create with ST.
SR is also a directX game. same as MR and ST. There is no new engine.
SR is a very bad game! only money money money

[lys_knight]

Where is the moderator ? This bashing has to stop. This is not a STEAM game. Go waste space and your time somewhere else please. This is a MUD RUNNER discussion. However even if it's out of the Mud Runner topic SNOW RUNNER is a fantastic game I'm having a blast with and I wish the person "reviewing it" knew how to play such games.... Some games are not for every one !

[Digressive (1-800-WAA-TATA)]

Originally posted by lys_knight:

Where is the moderator ? This bashing has to stop. This is not a STEAM game. Go waste space and your time somewhere else please. This is a MUD RUNNER discussion. However even if it's out of the Mud Runner topic SNOW RUNNER is a fantastic game I'm having a blast with and I wish the person "reviewing it" knew how to play such games.... Some games are not for every one !

I think it safe to say a discussion is more worth it than a massive downvote.

[Cmdo.Delta]

Originally posted by Allozorro:

Hi, we just follow the rules of Steam discussions. Discussion of a non-Steam game is offtopic.
These topics only prevent other players from finding the information they need. Nobody forbids you to express your point of view about SnowRunner. On the contrary, it is most welcome. But you need to do this on the appropriate resources. You can freely post your comment on the Official forum or the Discord. All links in a pinned post.

I will not move this topic yet (but this is an exception). If you have any questions, ask.

I would say it's litterally the first place i thought of to start that kind of discussion. xD

Originally posted by PLAY3R:

If snowrunner was sold on steam as EA game i would buy it right now. EA games receive patches and thanks to Workshop a lot extra content and mods for free. Finished games receive "premium content' and DLCs for extra money...

I feel the same mate. I guess i'll keep watching the game on Twitch and wait for a bunch of people reviews and hopefully it'll come to Steam :D

[NiceGuy]

Originally posted by Yoepie:

SR is all about money, nothing more.

1. I really love these Nonsens posts.
I have some serious news for you. Each an every game you ever bought and will ever buy in your life is about generating money. Just that simple. These guys make games too earn money for a living. Yes it might be a whole new aspect of life for you since it seams you do not have to work for your money.
2. I love SR. The grafics are way better than MR and the new cargo types and missions are great. I also love the aspect to build up my service, having to buy trucks and equipment.
3. I can confirm that mud resets on load /save.which I'm not sure of I like our hate it. It's annoying not to see my old wheel tracks. It adds to realism if a mud road gets worse the more you use it. BUT with the new mission and game play design other than in MR you stay longer on each map. You have to use roads many times. Not like in MR where you do the one mission and leave the map.
I would love mud memory but if so we would need also street works to repair/prepare roads.

[BullRot]

59 GBP for Premium SnowRunner. Wow

[Samfisch]

ich finde Snowrunner ist ein eignes Spiel was teile von den vorgängern übernommen hat aber geht in Richtung Transportsimulator mit Story,man muss aufgaben erledigen um neue wagen und zubehörteile kaufen zu können.

Mudrunner und Spintires hingegen ist mehr sandbox was auf die community angewiessen ist um weiter zu exestieren. Mir persönlich gefallen sie alle 3 da es die besten offroadgames sind seit (Motorm4x,Offroaddrive1-3, und Screamer4x4).

Das original hat letztes jahr ein paar updates erhalten z.b. regen oder camera die man weiter herauszoomen kann gefällt mir

Die wiederum bei mudrunner fehlen aber dafür ist in mudrunner die community stärker und man kann im workshop karten finden die man beim original SP komplizierter einfügen muss.

Snowrunner hingegen hat der publisher gesagt das die welt größer sei was ich nicht bestätigen kann aber ich kann sagen die haben 2-3 karten miteinander verbunden durch tunnel system, fährst du durch tunnel wird die neu karte geladen.
Premium hab ich erstmal gelassen.

[mgfreak83]

SR is not a dumpster fire at all.

[HEAVYHITTER451]

see you in snow runner in a years time altho i did wait one year for genesis alpha one on my wish list it finaly did come to steam even at a heavy i discount i thought meh so maybe i will buy maybe not still waiting for my shark game also to come to steam i will wait for the snow runner 2 i think the unbroken they re release under another name like they did spin tyres to mud runner lol