"Simulation"??? That's a JOKE!!!

[Jack Schitt]

If anyone disagrees you have obviously never driven offroad and have never driven a manual transmission (period - or you don't do it well if you do / did). You have especially not driven a manual transmission offroad if you don't agree with this game being categorized as a "Simulation" is a complete and horrible joke.

I'm constantly annoyed by the way this game is written because it claims to be a sim, and it is definitely NOT.

[Kosm1cznY]

Winch is topic now... So my thought on winch in this game is that it is.... MAGIC! How it works it is mure magic. First of all winch line is some kind of weird grey material. So it is not typical line found in our world (moders made texture for that but it is mod so shhhh) and it is attached to points of truck that have no any mechanical or electric or whatewer mechanism and still it can PULL! WOW xD We cannot se that it is some portable motor that can be attached to object like trees and then to truck so it can pull it out but instead it is gray mystery "line" Hmm if it is not magic then maybe it is send by aliens to aid Russian folks get out their trucks from holes etc. xD

Winch in this game is not a winch known to humanity it is some weird magic line that have its strength and can help in getting out vehicles so no point in arguing if it is electrical or mechanical IT IS MAGIC! xD So game is not realistic! :p

[ImALittleTeaPot]

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

Winch in this game is not a winch known to humanity it is some weird magic line that have its strength and can help in getting out vehicles so no point in arguing if it is electrical or mechanical IT IS MAGIC! xD So game is not realistic! :p

Love this!

Magical > Mechanical > Electrical > Oxen > Horses > Dogs > Small children > Chickens > Cats

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

Winch is topic now... it is attached to points of truck that have no any mechanical or electric or whatewer mechanism and still it can PULL!

That is really not a problem in real life.
You usually have the winch in front or the back, and you can run the line from "points" along the truck, or you drag the line aound objects, and to what ever you are fastening it to, and start the pulling.
So yeah, you can pull a truck in angles, (almost)like in the game.

And about that realism.. No where (official) does it states this game is a realistic truck driving simulator.
This game is a realistic deformation simulator.

[Kosm1cznY]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

Winch is topic now... it is attached to points of truck that have no any mechanical or electric or whatewer mechanism and still it can PULL!

That is really not a problem in real life.
You usually have the winch in front or the back, and you can run the line from "points" along the truck, or you drag the line aound objects, and to what ever you are fastening it to, and start the pulling.
So yeah, you can pull a truck in angles, (almost)like in the game.

That is interesting. Never saw that in vids on YT about offroading but if that is true then ok but still in game we dont see working winch on truck. It is not animated thing SADLY. Not all vehicles in Spintires have winch but still can use this magic gray line ;)
BTW I just wonder why it is gray?!?! Why not black or brown but GRAY? Weird...

If moders was able to add texture for this then why devs were so lazy hmm.
http://www.mudrunnermods.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rope-winch-texture-mod.jpg
That makes me wonder. Anyway. Can you post some vids about what you mentioned involwing Russian trucks winching from any point on truck and pulling it in angle?

[Altairsky]

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

That is interesting. Never saw that in vids on YT about offroading but if that is true then ok but still in game we dont see working winch on truck. It is not animated thing SADLY. Not all vehicles in Spintires have winch but still can use this magic gray line ;)
BTW I just wonder why it is gray?!?! Why not black or brown but GRAY? Weird...

If moders was able to add texture for this then why devs were so lazy hmm.
http://www.mudrunnermods.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rope-winch-texture-mod.jpg
That makes me wonder. Anyway. Can you post some vids about what you mentioned involwing Russian trucks winching from any point on truck and pulling it in angle?

You can check the channel called "Ron Pratt", he rescue vehicles and sometimes when the vehicle to rescue is in a complicated position, he uses hooks to build a path for the winch and be able to pull a vehicle in a different direction than where the winch is actually pulling. It can be done in the case of spintires too, but it's not shown by graphics.
Example: 13m38s
https://youtu.be/k-LwgwWNQW0?t=13m38s

[MarcroM]

Hi Jack,

Ok thats your sight. But did you realise other guys dont have your special backround. Ask a profesional racingdriver about the difference to a Racing Sim Game .

"The Red Bull simulator is, of course, handy because it scans all the data from the driver and the engine directly, so the video game is not nearly as close to reality as a simulator, but it's definitely something useful for getting started. "
Quote Sébastien Buemi in Interview with David Stöckli.

I don't drive Trucks offroad. But sometimes i have to carry ca. 3 tones of load on a 4x4 diesel powered Pickup with trailer on offroad tracks or without tracks. And the feeling get nearby to mudrunner. I know there's a lot of differences. But i think thats the point for a sim game, to get a little bit of the original feeling.

[Kosm1cznY]

Originally posted by Altair:

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

That is interesting. Never saw that in vids on YT about offroading but if that is true then ok but still in game we dont see working winch on truck. It is not animated thing SADLY. Not all vehicles in Spintires have winch but still can use this magic gray line ;)
BTW I just wonder why it is gray?!?! Why not black or brown but GRAY? Weird...

If moders was able to add texture for this then why devs were so lazy hmm.
http://www.mudrunnermods.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rope-winch-texture-mod.jpg
That makes me wonder. Anyway. Can you post some vids about what you mentioned involwing Russian trucks winching from any point on truck and pulling it in angle?

Example: 13m38s

It is not what I wanted to see. It is not winching on its own and I meant truck winching itself to the sides. I found what I wanted but it was on offroad cars not trucks. So still I never saw that used on russian trucks.

[nothing_cool]

if you look on some of the chassis of the 6x6s, you'll notice the winch is mounted between the rear axles and the cable runs back between a set of rollers, then to the front the vehicle. From there, the winch points are ususally on hooks welded to bumpers or the frame...which would act as roller and allow the winch to reach any point around the truck.

[Kosm1cznY]

Again no video about this other types of winching So no proof about that. Of course I noticed this winch mechanism on truck chasis. Some vehicles have no winch but still can pull. That sucks.

[nothing_cool]

That's just not being modeled in a visible place. I just offered a solution and I was figuring on most of these having similar systems.

[Altairsky]

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

Again no video about this other types of winching So no proof about that. Of course I noticed this winch mechanism on truck chasis. Some vehicles have no winch but still can pull. That sucks.

We gave you plenty of proves (including videos about creative winching) but you don't accept any of them as valid, you spit out a nonsensical excuse on why it's not valid and that's it. It's your personal problem then.
No matter how many proves we show you, you will always tell that they're not valid so further discussion is worthless. Anyone who has a brain cell can watch the videos and draw their own conclusions.

[Richard Siegers]

Originally posted by |-Oc-| Bort:

Originally posted by Allozorro:

Hear about Surgeon Simulator? Tea party Simulator, etc. You triggered every time when read "simulator"?)

This reply that I've quoted is the exact IDIOT comment that has absolutely NO clue in tune with reality that I'm talking about.
Absolutely 100% clueless to what "simulation" is and should be.

actualy you are the idiot complaining witout typing what you think its bad about spintires

[FatBoy ò.ó]

http://mowgli-adventures.com/unimog-roll-and-self-recovery/

I can't believe you dont think this can be done....I weld tabs all over my EXO cages just for this reason.

[Mr Fister]

Originally posted by FatBoy ò.ó:

http://mowgli-adventures.com/unimog-roll-and-self-recovery/

I can't believe you dont think this can be done....I weld tabs all over my EXO cages just for this reason.

Its a troll the fact that the mods havent banned him yet is curious.

[Major FAIL]

Click bait troll...