Is the original Spintires just abandoned by them now?

[Initial Dank]

I want to know

[Ryuu]

It have been abandoned for more than a year already.

[mendel]

MudRunner is based on the original Spintires: same developer, same engine, same community, mods can be converted. MudRunner is the future of Spintires.

[Kosm1cznY]

Blame that damn Oovee for ruining that game. Good that developer did not let his dream project to die just because publisher was damn worthless scamer filled with people thinking about their own private money and did not let Pavel to work on his game. Now with new thrustworthy publisher he may continue his work. Great to see that happening instead of forgeting unfinished Spintires. Game that could give more but because of money hungry people it was abandomed. **$$** oovee!

[Initial Dank]

thanks guys

[frans]

Well, its not the same publisher and not the same developer...

[Kosm1cznY]

Originally posted by Hoxtilicious:

Well, its not the same publisher and not the same developer...

Technically it is true. But Ovee hired Pavel the original creator as developer worker but it was his game and he updated it but with approval of Ovee. He could not do nothing without their consent.
He was under a contract. Now he is in team of developers and he is main dev there. And now there will be trust worthy publisher to release this game so this time there will be no bottleneck like Oovee.

[frans]

I'm not talking about Pavel. As you said he is a new adviser/main dev in Saber Interactive. My point is Oovee is not any longer part of a deal, hopefully. They can't f**k it up again.

[bum]

Mud Runner is just a paid update for spintires

[mendel]

Originally posted by Hoxtilicious:

I'm not talking about Pavel. As you said he is a new adviser/main dev in Saber Interactive. My point is Oovee is not any longer part of a deal, hopefully. They can't f**k it up again.

Yeah, I've never thought of Oovee as a developer.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by CoSm1c gAm3r:

Originally posted by Hoxtilicious:

Well, its not the same publisher and not the same developer...

Technically it is true. But Ovee hired Pavel the original creator as developer worker but it was his game and he updated it but with approval of Ovee. He could not do nothing without their consent.
He was under a contract. Now he is in team of developers and he is main dev there. And now there will be trust worthy publisher to release this game so this time there will be no bottleneck like Oovee.

Regardless, the IP is still owned by Oovee; name, content, graphics for eg. They still get royalties on sales. You forever read about samsung,apple 'treading' on each others toes over copyright, designs.
Pavel like a famous guy from a looooong time ago on the flight sim world; Oleg Maddox, developed IL-2 Sturmovik amongst several other of his IP catalogue. Is still 'controlled' by his publisher (Ubisoft) financialy. Without them he simply doesn't exist. If they make a deal with Intel CPUs then he has to go along with that or die -why elase do you think you see AMD or Nvidia on game boxes.
If he (Pavel) becomes an independant, then he can do what he wants; most likely has to buy back shares, copyright from the publishers to do that, but that's life.

[mendel]

Pavel retained the rights to the engine; Oovee have the rights to the Spintires trademark, and maybe some of the assets. So he's not really that dependent, and I wouldn't be surprised if future installations of MudRunner drop the word "Spintires" entirely.