FaceIt will make me uninstall (not for the reason you might think)

[Roland]

I could give a ♥♥♥♥ about the privacy stuff honestly, what I care about is the 24/7 part.
NOTHING runs on my machine without my approval and anything that does not need to be running does not run. Period.
It's bad enough BattelEye and EAC have their little services, but at least I can disable them on the fly if I need to. (and more than 1 game use em) That kernel level ♥♥♥♥, especially for a single game, can suck my ♥♥♥♥.

Like if I played the game for a living or had no other games to play, then maybe, but system resources are not getting wasted for something so casual and not making me money.

Also I'd just end up uninstalling it as soon as it conflicted with one of my other 800+ games. That's another thing about these 24/7 kernel systems, eventually they will conflict with another game or anti-cheat; it's inevitable.

Anyway, ball is in the devs court. I get EAC is ass but a 24/7 solution is not a good solution either. Even if you ignore my micromanagement of my system, you still gotta consider you're setting yourself up for a future uninstall with conflicts in other games. The first new AAA game that crashes when someone has FaceIt installed will cause mass uninstalls of your game.

Just some stuff to think about devs.

[CtrlAltDelicious]

You're already "wasting system resources" by playing the game. It's not like you're using system resources to find a cure for cancer.

When you buy an online FPS you either deal with the cheaters or the invasive anticheat.
Honestly, if you'd rather deal with the former than maybe you're one of them.

[Wehzy]

Only like 1% will uninstall or stop playing because of AC.

as someone who has been using faceit AC since 2014 i didn't have issues with it a single time. It never conflicted with ANY of my 700 games.

You want to play against cheaters or have a working ac like in valorant? im not a big fan of kernel AC myself but thats the only solution.

[Noeat]

Originally posted by Roland:

I could give a ♥♥♥♥ about the privacy stuff honestly, what I care about is the 24/7 part.
NOTHING runs on my machine without my approval and anything that does not need to be running does not run. Period.

are you talking about this?

https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/9394666828188-What-is-FACEIT-Anti-cheat-and-how-does-it-work-

"In our latest versions of the FACEIT Anti-cheat, you are given more control over the driver operation. In particular, you can go to the Anti-cheat tray icon and choose “disable driver”. This will allow you to unload our driver without uninstalling the Anti-cheat. Please keep in mind that if you do disable the driver, you will be asked to restart your PC before being able to play any of the games we protect."

[Roland]

Originally posted by CtrlAltDelicious:

You're already "wasting system resources" by playing the game. It's not like you're using system resources to find a cure for cancer.

How am I wasting them when I'm using them to play the game?
Also, which cancer?

Originally posted by CtrlAltDelicious:

When you buy an online FPS you either deal with the cheaters or the invasive anticheat.
Honestly, if you'd rather deal with the former than maybe you're one of them.

LMAO Are you trying to DEFEND them possibly going with FaceIt??

Oh boy kiddo, okay first off:
As I mentioned I have no issues with EAC or BattleEye or that one R6:Siege is using that I forget the name of.
Not a single anti-cheat on the planet is perfect but EAC has been adequate for competitive FPS, ones that even hold national and international tournaments with cash prizes, for years and contrary to what the vocal minority would have you believe, still works fine.

Every single modern game that has released with EAC is pretty lacking in cheaters, all you gotta do is play em to see this. Starship Troopers Extermination I have over 100 hours in already and only saw 1 cheater the entire time. This game I have yet to see a single cheater in my 50 hours. And Paladins I have over 57 full days of playtime in and have never seen a cheater once.
All use EAC.

You won't find a PvP game where people aren't going "this is full of cheaters" and the more popular the game, the more it will happen, but when you play those games and look for proof you can't find it.

By comparison play GTAO where it is actually full of cheaters to the point where you can't fill a 32 man lobby without at least 2 of them in it. THAT'S what an actual cheat infested game looks like.

[Rager]

I think if it works, i am willing to give up players such as yourself for a better game. It is a very small price to pay.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

Only like 1% will uninstall or stop playing because of AC.

as someone who has been using faceit AC since 2014 i didn't have issues with it a single time. It never conflicted with ANY of my 700 games.

You want to play against cheaters or have a working ac like in valorant? im not a big fan of kernel AC myself but thats the only solution.

Would you mind giving me examples of games that use it?
I've literally never encountered it before, and I play a good chunk of MP games.

Also, more importantly, what does Windows say the Startup impact is when you open Task Manager and go to Startup Programs?

Startup response time and squeezing every drop of performance out of my system I can is why I run such a tight ship.

[CtrlAltDelicious]

Originally posted by Roland:

Not a single anti-cheat on the planet is perfect but EAC has been adequate for competitive FPS, ones that even hold national and international tournaments with cash prizes, for years and contrary to what the vocal minority would have you believe, still works fine.

Anybrain is perfect.

EAC is not adequate, not by a long shot. Games using it are filled with cheaters, including this one. To claim otherwise can only mean you're one of the cheaters. You either close your eyes when the banwaves happen (imagine how many don't get caught), or you're simply one of them.

Originally posted by Roland:

Every single modern game that has released with EAC is pretty lacking in cheaters, all you gotta do is play em to see this. Starship Troopers Extermination I have over 100 hours in already and only saw 1 cheater the entire time. This game I have yet to see a single cheater in my 50 hours.

Yea, you're definitely a cheater that's crying because you won't be able to cheat anymore.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Rager:

I think if it works, i am willing to give up players such as yourself for a better game. It is a very small price to pay.

EAC works though.
Have over 2000 hours in Paladins, which is free mind you, no buy in, and have never seen a cheater.

[Echelon-希望と強さ]

Facit sucks, peeps with brain know that.

[Rager]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Rager:

I think if it works, i am willing to give up players such as yourself for a better game. It is a very small price to pay.

EAC works though.
Have over 2000 hours in Paladins, which is free mind you, no buy in, and have never seen a cheater.

Clearly it is not working because I deal with cheaters right now. The ban waves are just for show as it means they will rebuy the game and ruin things again.

That is just the cheats we can see, we are getting to the point where if you are not at least using emp. Are you really playing? That is how bad things are getting.

[Roland]

Originally posted by CtrlAltDelicious:

Originally posted by Roland:

Not a single anti-cheat on the planet is perfect but EAC has been adequate for competitive FPS, ones that even hold national and international tournaments with cash prizes, for years and contrary to what the vocal minority would have you believe, still works fine.

Anybrain is perfect.

EAC is not adequate, not by a long shot. Games using it are filled with cheaters, including this one. To claim otherwise can only mean you're one of the cheaters. You either close your eyes when the banwaves happen (imagine how many don't get caught), or you're simply one of them.

Originally posted by Roland:

Every single modern game that has released with EAC is pretty lacking in cheaters, all you gotta do is play em to see this. Starship Troopers Extermination I have over 100 hours in already and only saw 1 cheater the entire time. This game I have yet to see a single cheater in my 50 hours.

Yea, you're definitely a cheater that's crying because you won't be able to cheat anymore.

if they are getting banned then the AC is working.
Are you seriously going to sit there and say banwaves are proof it isn't working??? LMFAO

And that's cute how you ended the quote before the 53 days in Paladins because you know damn well by 53 days (well over 2000 hours) I should have run into one, especially in a game with a Ranked mode.

Go ahead troll and keep on trollin, but you have no power here.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Rager:

Originally posted by Roland:

EAC works though.
Have over 2000 hours in Paladins, which is free mind you, no buy in, and have never seen a cheater.

Clearly it is not working because I deal with cheaters right now. The ban waves are just for show as it means they will rebuy the game and ruin things again.

Please think about what you are saying.
"the banwaves are just for show" okay so it's just banning random people then??
"as it means they will rebuy the game and ruin things again" OH so it is actually detecting the correct people and banning them.

You're literally saying it's finding the correct people and removing them, and somehow that's it NOT working?

Them buying the game again is no different than them replacing a part in their computer to change their HWID.

And for any of you that think kernel level is the only solution, it's not even a solution because people have demonstrated repeatedly you can cheat kernel level by just building a second machine to control the first machine. One guy did it with a Pi and parts from a 3d printer.

[CtrlAltDelicious]

Originally posted by Roland:

if they are getting banned then the AC is working.
Are you seriously going to sit there and say banwaves are proof it isn't working??? LMFAO

And that's cute how you ended the quote before the 53 days in Paladins because you know damn well by 53 days (well over 2000 hours) I should have run into one, especially in a game with a Ranked mode.

Go ahead troll and keep on trollin, but you have no power here.

You didn't run into any because you're not looking for them AND you're not willing to admit they're there. Valorant didn't implement better anticheat just to ef around with our PCs. You're just unwilling to face the truth. Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek

And yes, banwaves are proof it doesn't work. If it did work it would work so fast the cheaters wouldn't just rebuy the game to cheat again. If it did work you'd have a single massive banwave, and then never again because everyone would realise the futility of cheating. Instead...the banwaves are constant because obviously it pays to cheat.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Tenko:

Meanwhile uses Norton.

IF I were to use a 3rd party it would be Bitdefender. I've been recommending them since 2009, even while I worked at Office Max and we had a deal with Norton I couldn't recommend it because of it's resource overhead; got me in trouble with my manager every time I didn't try to attach it to a laptop sale. Now neither would be a good idea, but if someone NEEDED a 3rd party AV for some reason I'd still recommend Bitdefender.

Meanwhile, I bet you have a ton of optional Windows Features installed that you'll never use.

[GioSerpo™]

Originally posted by Roland:

By comparison play GTAO where it is actually full of cheaters to the point where you can't fill a 32 man lobby without at least 2 of them in it. THAT'S what an actual cheat infested game looks like.

While I agree with not wanting them to switch anti-cheats, I just wanted to confirm that GTAO is still that bad with cheaters, because after their latest update, everytime I launch the game it crashes and tells me that EAC isn't installed. I've checked EAC's website, and even emailed R* directly who both say that EAC is NOT a part of GTA V or GTAO, but idk why it would be crashing telling me EAC wasn't installed, if that were true. And like, you can't just go download it, because it's my understanding that it's game specific.