Shotguns?

[Aname Goeshere]

Any chance we're going to get some shotguns in this game?

[Mila Alba]

None, devs wont add them for balancing reasons.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Mila Alba:

None, devs wont add them for balancing reasons.

And if they did they'll give them to engineer lol

[Metal Izanagi]

Originally posted by Mila Alba:

None, devs wont add them for balancing reasons.

You're joking, right? Shotguns are a standard in these types of games.

[Mila Alba]

Originally posted by Metal Izanagi:

Originally posted by Mila Alba:

None, devs wont add them for balancing reasons.

You're joking, right? Shotguns are a standard in these types of games.

Not joking, reciting what I have seen from everyone else discussing the play tests and asking for the shotguns.

[Tajin]

balancing reasons? funny...yet we have smgs that kill you in the blink of an eye and probably have better range than any shotgun would have.

[Wehzy]

Originally posted by Tajin:

balancing reasons? funny...yet we have smgs that kill you in the blink of an eye and probably have better range than any shotgun would have.

True. SMG'S are literally a lazer with no recoil. How are shotguns harder to balance than lazers?

[Mila Alba]

To be fair everything in this game kills you in the blink of an eye, just need recoil reduction to get it there.

[Ferrix]

Yeah, blanket-refusal of shotguns when SMGs are recoilless laserbeams with almost no damage falloff at 150m is... tone-deaf. I get bodied by SMGs more often than ARs in the average match, particularly in the 50-ish meter range where their ROF just outcompetes everything and their spray is still completely person-sized.

There's a reason the Marines have the M1014/Benelli M4 with the extended tube: A semi-automatic shotgun with 00 buckshot can toss 9-10 9mm pellets per shot, factor in 7+1 rounds and you've got a LOT of lead. But slower firerate, more recoil, less ammo capacity, worse armor pen, shorter range of maybe 40m max... and besides, if it's an argument of not wanting instakills, guess what: The guns in this game already practically instagib.

[Metal Izanagi]

I just want to be able to run my old shotgun medic class from BF3, damnit.

[Ferrix]

Hell, even Warface gave medics shotties, because they were the ones having enemies in their faces *constantly* if they wanted to save the rest of the team.

[Ferrix]

Originally posted by Mars:

With the TTK in this game being super low already, could you imagine what an auto shotgun would be line in CQC?

That is why they didn't add them.

I mean, yeah, an auto-shotgun would be pretty unwise, but at the same time, what military on Earth even fields auto-shotguns? All fielded combat shotguns I'm aware of (The Benelli M4, Saiga/VEPR 12, etc) are semi-automatic and either magazine- or tube-fed. And then there's the overglorified rifle that is the KS-23, but anyone who's played Tarkov would know better than to ask for that thing to be added.

And since TTK is already low, guess what, a shotgun isn't going to make it any lower. Slower firerate and higher recoil more in line with the statistics of some of the DMRs would make it impossible to do any more than *maybe* a 1v2. And in taking a shotgun as your primary, you're relegated to ONLY having firefights in the 50m-or-less range as that's the maximum effective range for most buckshot which is what militaries use. Someone's taking popshots at you from 200m out? Hope you're a good shot with your pistol.

[Ferrix]

As an aside, given the devs seem to be planning a TRENCH WARFARE gamemode as visible in the server browser sort under "Voxel Trench", a shotgun is an obvious choice to add.

[RaNdOmKiLs666]

They should add shotguns to the game, end of story.

[Flob]

Originally posted by RaNdOmKiLs666:

They should add shotguns to the game, end of story.

Sorry you suck so much you rely on shotguns to be able to get kills

[Ferrix]

Originally posted by Flob:

Sorry you suck so much you rely on shotguns to be able to get kills

As if people aren't using Medic SMG-rush setups as a crutch right now because running around a corner at 50MPH and spraying is one of the only ways they can get kills. Shotguns would actually give a counter-option to these crackhead Rambo wannabes spraying bullets at 1000RPM, and provide a good reason as to why NOT to be up in people's faces.