There is a flaw with the Voice Chat...

[Cryptix]

I have noticed that people who spam slurs or use "undesirable" comments at the start of matches get unpunished because it's impossible to know who it is.

Anybody that could possibly be upset by someone couldn't feasibly report them. Seems like an oversight to me.

So, devs... what's the point in even taking such a harsh stance against the voice chat to begin with?

I understand the devs not wanting people to be horrible in the chat and it's a perfectly respectable standpoint but that kind of thing is inevitable with voice chat so why even include voice chat at all at that point? Seems like an un-monitored approach would be just about as effective.

People spam all kinds of nonsense at the beginning of matches to avoid consequences because they are effectively hidden.

My stance?

I think the voice chat should have more freedom. Who cares if people say some naughty words. I want as many people using the feature throughout the match as there's always something funny happening.

Originally posted by Cryptix:

This thread has honestly made me worry about peoples reading comprehension. People seem to be completely misinterpreting my OP. I am unsure if it's deliberate or not but it seems like a massive waste of time either way. People seem to be falling under 2 camps:

• They either think that I am somewhat upset with the vulgarity in the game and am simply complaining and/or asking for censorship.
  
• Or thinking that I am trying and struggling to mute the players for whatever reason.

I am neither.

I am simply making an observation about methodology the developers are using to tackle "toxic" or "undesirable" VC in their game. That's it.

The majority of other games simply use a report frequency method to determine who should be banned. The developers here have gone for far more intrusive and resource heavy way by recording the VC in the games that get reports in and having them reviewed.

Why have the developers done this? That's all I am asking. Why would the devs choose a far more difficult and less desirable way of doing the same thing?

When players get multiple reports you ban them, with escalating bans if they continue... it's that easy. You don't need to record the voice chats and have them reviewed. Think of all the time and resources this is taking up and where those resources could be re-allocated.

[gza]

There will be no perfect solution. Just because some decide to blend in with the noise at the start, does not mean that it should be scrapped altogether. It's not all or nothing.

[Korvaak]

gitgud

[Cryptix]

Guys, read my post I am not saying it should be scrapped or that I dislike the feature.

[EDIT] I have reorganised the OP to make this point clearer.

The issue that I am trying to highlight is that the devs are so eagar to get rid of naughty behaviour in chat yet people have found a way to get around it so why even take such a harsh stand against the voice chat.

[TrevMizer]

It's mainly so they can sell your voice clips for AI voice training. Pretty sure the government gets them for free though.

[Royal Tea]

If you see someones name pop up that is saying stuff you dont like just hit F1 and it shall mute them.

[Volk]

Originally posted by Cryptix:

Guys, read my post I am not saying it should be scrapped or that I dislike the feature.

[EDIT] I have reorganised the OP to make this point clearer.

The issue that I am trying to highlight is that the devs are so eagar to get rid of naughty behaviour in chat yet people have found a way to get around it so why even take such a harsh stand against the voice chat.

Well most of the game devs nowadays are completely detracted from reality and assume that games should be utopias were everyone respects each other. They will probably double down on censorhip :/

[Forward Bias]

Originally posted by TrevMizer:

It's mainly so they can sell your voice clips for AI voice training. Pretty sure the government gets them for free though.

Do you have a source for these completely baseless claims? A game where people are screaming memes, shouting, and blasting music is going to be a horrible source for training material lmao. It's much more worthwhile to get it from something like discord or your phone, both things i'm sure you're totally fine using.

[Chapter Master Mel]

Reddit moment

[Soosmokie]

I just spam F1 and F2 and mute everyone who is spamming the mic. perfect opportunity to mute all the annoying people.

[an entire Roman legion]

Originally posted by Soosmokie:

I just spam F1 and F2 and mute everyone who is spamming the mic. perfect opportunity to mute all the annoying people.

this is the way.

[Dead Content]

Originally posted by Cryptix:

People spamming slurs and derogatory comments at the start of matches get unpunished because it's impossible to know who it is and report them.

So... what's the point in even taking such a harsh stance against the voice chat to begin with?

I understand not wanting people to be horrible in the chat and it's a perfectly respectable standpoint but that kind of thing is inevitable with voice chat so why even include voice chat at all?

People spam all kinds of horrible nonsense at the beginning of matches to avoid consequences and go dead silent throughout the match.

My stance?

I think the voice chat should have more freedom. Who cares if people say some naughty words. I want as many people using the feature THROUGHOUT the match. Plus it's funny to hear enemies talk BS after you win against them.

Sounds like you should hit the F keys when they pop up so you don't have to hear it. It would take you all but a couple seconds to do instead of spending 30 minutes trying to figure out what to post on steam discussions about it.

[Dead Content]

Originally posted by Forward Bias:

Originally posted by TrevMizer:

It's mainly so they can sell your voice clips for AI voice training. Pretty sure the government gets them for free though.

Do you have a source for these completely baseless claims? A game where people are screaming memes, shouting, and blasting music is going to be a horrible source for training material lmao. It's much more worthwhile to get it from something like discord or your phone, both things i'm sure you're totally fine using.

Discord doesn't record your voice.

[ImKrazyK]

Originally posted by Dead Content:

Originally posted by Forward Bias:

Do you have a source for these completely baseless claims? A game where people are screaming memes, shouting, and blasting music is going to be a horrible source for training material lmao. It's much more worthwhile to get it from something like discord or your phone, both things i'm sure you're totally fine using.

Discord doesn't record your voice.

Actually, Discord does record your voice and video. An incident that happened between my wife and her sister/sisters boyfriend was used as evidence in a trial last year. Discord keeps that information on a server for legal purposes in the event that something happens via their program.

[MonoBanana]

As you said, it prevents them to talk trash mid game, who cares about the min in the start if the whole match gonna be awesome ? its just 1 min

[Cryptix]

Originally posted by Dead Content:

Originally posted by Cryptix:

People spamming slurs and derogatory comments at the start of matches get unpunished because it's impossible to know who it is and report them.

So... what's the point in even taking such a harsh stance against the voice chat to begin with?

I understand not wanting people to be horrible in the chat and it's a perfectly respectable standpoint but that kind of thing is inevitable with voice chat so why even include voice chat at all?

People spam all kinds of horrible nonsense at the beginning of matches to avoid consequences and go dead silent throughout the match.

My stance?

I think the voice chat should have more freedom. Who cares if people say some naughty words. I want as many people using the feature THROUGHOUT the match. Plus it's funny to hear enemies talk BS after you win against them.

Sounds like you should hit the F keys when they pop up so you don't have to hear it. It would take you all but a couple seconds to do instead of spending 30 minutes trying to figure out what to post on steam discussions about it.

Not the point of my thread.