Ban anyone who's ever had a VAC ban from the official servers

[iaxx]

Honestly, it's too often you see someone go 80-2, check their steam profile and they have 'Multiple VAC bans on record'

Steam offers a nice database of every single person that has ever cheated in games. Why ignore it?

Seeing as there are people with 30-40+ reports for cheating, multiple VAC bans on record dropping 80+ kills in the first 10 minutes of a match and not getting banned it's clear that the system is not good enough.

I don't want one of the best FPS of this decade to be ruined because the developers were too soft on cheating.

[Vivianite]

because this game doesn't use VAC

[Turk]

Can you explain why I should be banned from Battlebit for cheating once in Rust's alpha as a dumb teenager over 10 years ago?

[Miguel "The Bronx Baliff" Murphy]

I don't hack in this game how mad are you?

[Lionhearted]

Originally posted by Turk:

Can you explain why I should be banned from Battlebit for cheating once in Rust's alpha as a dumb teenager over 10 years ago?

What he said, I even got a ban for "phone sharing" apparently which was many many years ago, so why should I not be able to play this game having grown and matured? It's been 7 years too.

[Arson]

Originally posted by iaxx:

Honestly, it's too often you see someone go 80-2, check their steam profile and they have 'Multiple VAC bans on record'

Steam offers a nice database of every single person that has ever cheated in games. Why ignore it?

VAC bans are game-specific and only if the game runs VAC on Steam. You aren't banned from Steam if you have a VAC ban. You're banned from the game you cheated in. Steam doesn't share some database of VAC bans to game developers to pre-ban people, nor should they. Do you want to ban anyone from having a driver's license if they've ever had a ticket? Some people do just make big mistakes (like cheating) and them learn from them. I know the internet doesn't breed a strong sense of empathy, but to be frank someone's past behavior is absolutely none of your or any developer on Steam's business. If someone has a VAC ban they've paid the price for it already. This is a game, not a stock exchange. People can do things that are regrettable without eternal condemnation.

[iaxx]

Originally posted by Turk:

Can you explain why I should be banned from Battlebit for cheating once in Rust's alpha as a dumb teenager over 10 years ago?

Once a hacker, always a hacker.

Originally posted by Vivianite:

because this game doesn't use VAC

It doesn't need to use VAC, it can pull your steamID, see if you've ever been banned when you connect to a server and just block you from playing.

Originally posted by Arson:

Steam doesn't share some database of VAC bans to game developers to pre-ban people

It does, when you pull a steamID using their API you know if they've been banned or not. You can just block them from connecting to servers after that.

[Go4Pro]

Originally posted by Turk:

Can you explain why I should be banned from Battlebit for cheating once in Rust's alpha as a dumb teenager over 10 years ago?

you shouldve made a new account

[Go4Pro]

Originally posted by Lionhearted:

Originally posted by Turk:

Can you explain why I should be banned from Battlebit for cheating once in Rust's alpha as a dumb teenager over 10 years ago?

What he said, I even got a ban for "phone sharing" apparently which was many many years ago, so why should I not be able to play this game having grown and matured? It's been 7 years too.

tell that to valve

[Go4Pro]

Originally posted by Gideon "Grifter" Smith:

I don't hack in this game how mad are you?

get banned lol

[Arson]

Originally posted by iaxx:

Originally posted by Arson:

Steam doesn't share some database of VAC bans to game developers to pre-ban people

It does, when you pull a steamID using their API you know if they've been banned or not. You can just block them from connecting to servers after that.

That's a really disingenuous response. That information can be found if someone wants to look for it. That's not at all the same thing as sending out information for the purpose of pre-banning someone. Your request is patently ridiculous.

[Rio]

Nah

[Octarius]

Originally posted by Vivianite:

because this game doesn't use VAC

Sadly.

[Cody]

I have VAC bans from 3702 days ago that are so old they don't even show up on my profile anymore for anyone but me.

Going to prevent me from playing this game for mistakes made 10 years ago?

That's pretty unfair if you ask me.

[NiamhNyx]

Some people do learn from mistakes, and If they don't they get banned again.

If you really want pre-bans, how about the logical extreme. Have you ever played a game that you abused and exploit or glitch in or used a gameshark? Instant ban.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by Cody:

I have VAC bans from 3702 days ago that are so old they don't even show up on my profile anymore for anyone but me.

Going to prevent me from playing this game for mistakes made 10 years ago?

What was the mistake? Cheats just magically installed themselves on your computer and you got caught with them?

Cheating in online games is primarily based on personality. We know from a litany of research that personality doesn't really change over time. In fact, while people may change a small amount in absolute measures (like becoming more extroverted) over time, comparatively they will remain the same (i.e. be in the same percentile because everyone else also became more extroverted).

So it wasn't just a "mistake" that led to your ban. It was a decision that was made by you that was caused by your personality.