TTK should be higher

[ferro]

A higher ttk would raise the skill ceiling. Right now it just promotes people sniping from miles away and 3 tapping with rifles or just randomly spraying and managing to get kills.

[ferro]

All I'm asking for is a higher skill ceiling, low ttk makes that impossible. You don't need to aim with low ttk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[S k y]

Originally posted by ferro:

All I'm asking for is a higher skill ceiling, low ttk makes that impossible. You don't need to aim with low ttk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

In Battlefield most players are absolute garbage, literal lowest tier skill bracket FPS players.

So it's not surprising people here cape for a low skill ceiling, already seen a couple people in the Discord literally say things like they're glad reloading is slow and bleed because they stop sweaty players from stomping too hard. These people are delusional, right now they love this game because any mouthbreather can just sit in a corner or one of the million windows and instagib people.

I still enjoy the game but god I can't wait for community servers.

[Sharky]

Objectives are already hard to maintain/keep control of because of how the combat/movement is. A higher TTK will just make those battles last even longer, and harder, especially since you can revive someone 5 times before the timer is too fast before bleeding out. And theres no suppression system for weapons, which would make the m249 actually valuable to use. If the game was different core wise a higher TTK would be a better alternative, but atm it's just not.

[deserted_goat]

Originally posted by sabrina:

Originally posted by deserted_goat:

"raise the skill ceiling", like in brs where 90% of teamfighting is running, hiding, healing and 3rd parting? Or the smarter option, nerf helmets so that people who are actually accurate get the advantage vs loosing a gun fight because 3 ak rounds to the helmet within 50ms saves them meanwhile they finally first their first shot and one tap to my big toe, much skill there.

who said anything about BRs?

huge amount of people who complain about low ttk because they are use to br games instead of tactical shooters.

[Girth Control]

i feel like the ttk is already VERY high?

[Xorberax]

Potato aim.
Keyboard warrior.
Noob.
Scrub.
L2P (Learn to Play).
Casual gamer.
Button masher.
Campers.
Rage quitter.
Tryhard.
Cheater.
Hacker.
Trash player.
Filthy casual.
Laggy connection.
Lag switcher.
Skill-less wonder.
Gamepad peasant.
Aimbotter.
Wallhacker.
No-skill scrub.
Feeder.
Uninstall and never return.
You make me question the existence of natural selection.
Your reflexes are slower than a sloth in molasses.
You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if it was two inches away.
Your gameplay is a disgrace to humanity.
You need a roadmap to find the enemy.
Did you even read the tutorial?
Your gaming skills are on life support.
You're the reason why we can't have nice things.
Your playstyle is as predictable as a sunrise.
You're an embarrassment to gamers everywhere.
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
You make watching paint dry seem exciting.
You're about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
Your aim is so bad, I'm convinced you're playing with your eyes closed.
I've seen better gameplay from a toddler with a Fisher-Price controller.
Your strategy is like watching a confused chicken in a minefield.
Your skills are so basic, you belong in a tutorial level.
You couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat.
You play like a blindfolded toddler throwing darts at a target.
I've encountered better players in my sleep.
Your gaming abilities are a tragic comedy.
Did your controller come with a built-in "Suck Mode" setting?
You're a shining example of what not to do in a video game.
Your gameplay is like a train wreck in slow motion.
You're the reason why we can't nice things in online gaming.
Did you forget to take your brain pills today?
You're a walking tutorial on how not to play.
Your reaction time is slower than a snail with a hangover.
Did you mistakenly choose "Easy Mode" for your life too?
Your presence in the game is about as welcome as a virus.
Are you allergic to winning or are you just naturally bad?
You're so bad, even the NPCs feel sorry for you.
Your gaming skills need a serious firmware update.
It's like you have a "get killed" magnet strapped to your character.
Do you need a tutorial on how to breathe as well?
Your gameplay is like watching paint dry, except less entertaining.
You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rocket launcher.
Your strategy is as effective as a paper shield.
I'm amazed that you managed to turn on the game without assistance.
Your aim is so bad, I'm surprised you haven't shot yourself yet.
Did you mistake the controller for a TV remote?
Your gaming abilities are an insult to human evolution.
I've seen NPCs with more personality than you.
You're so bad, you make me want to uninstall the game just to forget.
Your playstyle is as exciting as watching grass grow.
Are you trying to break a world record for the most deaths in a minute?
Your aim is so off, I think you're shooting at the sun instead of enemies.
Did you choose the "Immobile Snail" character class by accident?
You're a prime example of why skill-based matchmaking exists.
I'm convinced you've never seen a keyboard in your life.
Your gameplay is like watching a turtle cross a finish line.
I've seen NPCs with better decision-making skills than you.
Your tactics are as subtle as a wrecking ball in a china shop.
You're a constant reminder of how low the skill ceiling can be.
Your aim is so bad, it's a wonder you even hit the "Start" button.
Your gaming skills need more than just a tutorial; they need a miracle.
I'm starting to think you're intentionally trying to be bad at this.
Your playstyle is as predictable as the sunrise.
Are you playing with your feet? Because that's the only explanation.
Your gaming abilities are a disgrace to all sentient beings.
Did you forget to equip skills, or were you just born without any?
You're the human embodiment of the word "failure."
Your strategy is as effective as a wet tissue against a flamethrower.
I've seen better reflexes in a coma patient.
You're so bad, you make a level 1 tutorial bot look like a pro.
Did you find the game too challenging, or is incompetence your natural state?
Your aim is so bad, I bet you couldn't hit the broad side of a skyscraper.
Your playstyle is like watching someone play the game with their face.
I've witnessed more intelligent AI in old Atari games.
Your gaming skills are so weak, I'm amazed you even managed to log in.
You're a living advertisement for the benefits of quitting.
Did you misplace your skill points in the character creation screen?
Your gameplay is a perpetual loop of failure and disappointment.
You're a shining example of why they invented single-player mode.
Your aim is so off, I'm convinced you're trying to hit players in other games.
Your gaming abilities are a stain on the history of gaming.
You're proof that natural selection has its flaws.
Remember, it's important to use these insults in a playful and respectful manner, keeping the spirit of banter alive in gaming communities.

[Girth Control]

Originally posted by Xorberax:

Potato aim.
Keyboard warrior.
Noob.
Scrub.
L2P (Learn to Play).
Casual gamer.
Button masher.
Campers.
Rage quitter.
Tryhard.
Cheater.
Hacker.
Trash player.
Filthy casual.
Laggy connection.
Lag switcher.
Skill-less wonder.
Gamepad peasant.
Aimbotter.
Wallhacker.
No-skill scrub.
Feeder.
Uninstall and never return.
You make me question the existence of natural selection.
Your reflexes are slower than a sloth in molasses.
You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if it was two inches away.
Your gameplay is a disgrace to humanity.
You need a roadmap to find the enemy.
Did you even read the tutorial?
Your gaming skills are on life support.
You're the reason why we can't have nice things.
Your playstyle is as predictable as a sunrise.
You're an embarrassment to gamers everywhere.
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
You make watching paint dry seem exciting.
You're about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
Your aim is so bad, I'm convinced you're playing with your eyes closed.
I've seen better gameplay from a toddler with a Fisher-Price controller.
Your strategy is like watching a confused chicken in a minefield.
Your skills are so basic, you belong in a tutorial level.
You couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat.
You play like a blindfolded toddler throwing darts at a target.
I've encountered better players in my sleep.
Your gaming abilities are a tragic comedy.
Did your controller come with a built-in "Suck Mode" setting?
You're a shining example of what not to do in a video game.
Your gameplay is like a train wreck in slow motion.
You're the reason why we can't nice things in online gaming.
Did you forget to take your brain pills today?
You're a walking tutorial on how not to play.
Your reaction time is slower than a snail with a hangover.
Did you mistakenly choose "Easy Mode" for your life too?
Your presence in the game is about as welcome as a virus.
Are you allergic to winning or are you just naturally bad?
You're so bad, even the NPCs feel sorry for you.
Your gaming skills need a serious firmware update.
It's like you have a "get killed" magnet strapped to your character.
Do you need a tutorial on how to breathe as well?
Your gameplay is like watching paint dry, except less entertaining.
You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rocket launcher.
Your strategy is as effective as a paper shield.
I'm amazed that you managed to turn on the game without assistance.
Your aim is so bad, I'm surprised you haven't shot yourself yet.
Did you mistake the controller for a TV remote?
Your gaming abilities are an insult to human evolution.
I've seen NPCs with more personality than you.
You're so bad, you make me want to uninstall the game just to forget.
Your playstyle is as exciting as watching grass grow.
Are you trying to break a world record for the most deaths in a minute?
Your aim is so off, I think you're shooting at the sun instead of enemies.
Did you choose the "Immobile Snail" character class by accident?
You're a prime example of why skill-based matchmaking exists.
I'm convinced you've never seen a keyboard in your life.
Your gameplay is like watching a turtle cross a finish line.
I've seen NPCs with better decision-making skills than you.
Your tactics are as subtle as a wrecking ball in a china shop.
You're a constant reminder of how low the skill ceiling can be.
Your aim is so bad, it's a wonder you even hit the "Start" button.
Your gaming skills need more than just a tutorial; they need a miracle.
I'm starting to think you're intentionally trying to be bad at this.
Your playstyle is as predictable as the sunrise.
Are you playing with your feet? Because that's the only explanation.
Your gaming abilities are a disgrace to all sentient beings.
Did you forget to equip skills, or were you just born without any?
You're the human embodiment of the word "failure."
Your strategy is as effective as a wet tissue against a flamethrower.
I've seen better reflexes in a coma patient.
You're so bad, you make a level 1 tutorial bot look like a pro.
Did you find the game too challenging, or is incompetence your natural state?
Your aim is so bad, I bet you couldn't hit the broad side of a skyscraper.
Your playstyle is like watching someone play the game with their face.
I've witnessed more intelligent AI in old Atari games.
Your gaming skills are so weak, I'm amazed you even managed to log in.
You're a living advertisement for the benefits of quitting.
Did you misplace your skill points in the character creation screen?
Your gameplay is a perpetual loop of failure and disappointment.
You're a shining example of why they invented single-player mode.
Your aim is so off, I'm convinced you're trying to hit players in other games.
Your gaming abilities are a stain on the history of gaming.
You're proof that natural selection has its flaws.
Remember, it's important to use these insults in a playful and respectful manner, keeping the spirit of banter alive in gaming communities.

nah

[ferro]

Originally posted by Sharky:

Objectives are already hard to maintain/keep control of because of how the combat/movement is. A higher TTK will just make those battles last even longer, and harder, especially since you can revive someone 5 times before the timer is too fast before bleeding out. And theres no suppression system for weapons, which would make the m249 actually valuable to use. If the game was different core wise a higher TTK would be a better alternative, but atm it's just not.

Yeah it would make fights harder, that is better. You are delusional about the M249, it doesn't need an artificial suppression mechanic to make it valuable. You can mow down like 7 people with it in seconds.

[ferro]

Originally posted by deserted_goat:

Originally posted by sabrina:

who said anything about BRs?

huge amount of people who complain about low ttk because they are use to br games instead of tactical shooters.

I think they just came from games that require actual aiming.

[Mr. Chedda]

Originally posted by Girth Control:

i feel like the ttk is already VERY high?

TTK is time to kill. If it's a high time to kill, that means it takes a long time to kill someone. This game has a very LOW ttk. it does not take much time to kill.

[Sharky]

Originally posted by ferro:

Originally posted by Sharky:

Objectives are already hard to maintain/keep control of because of how the combat/movement is. A higher TTK will just make those battles last even longer, and harder, especially since you can revive someone 5 times before the timer is too fast before bleeding out. And theres no suppression system for weapons, which would make the m249 actually valuable to use. If the game was different core wise a higher TTK would be a better alternative, but atm it's just not.

Yeah it would make fights harder, that is better. You are delusional about the M249, it doesn't need an artificial suppression mechanic to make it valuable. You can mow down like 7 people with it in seconds.

The M249 isn't anywhere near as good as other weapons to choose from. Yeah, it has a big mag, but I can mow 7 people down with an m4 too. And kill them easier due to reduced recoil. If the game was different core mechanic wise, a higher TTK would work. But at its state, it's fine. I got a 46 - 11 game, I don't have issues with how the combat is. You'll have to adapt, and overcome.

[ferro]

Originally posted by Sharky:

Originally posted by ferro:

Yeah it would make fights harder, that is better. You are delusional about the M249, it doesn't need an artificial suppression mechanic to make it valuable. You can mow down like 7 people with it in seconds.

The M249 isn't anywhere near as good as other weapons to choose from. Yeah, it has a big mag, but I can mow 7 people down with an m4 too. And kill them easier due to reduced recoil. If the game was different core mechanic wise, a higher TTK would work. But at its state, it's fine. I got a 46 - 11 game, I don't have issues with how the combat is. You'll have to adapt, and overcome.

There isn't even any real recoil on these guns. The DPS for the guns is all about the same too since the TTK is so low. A higher TTK would work fine with these mechanics and is better suited to the type of game it is.

[Meow Clawmore]

Originally posted by (MP) Bud Tendy:

Since last update I just die all the time to what feels like one or two hits.
Constant insta death as soon as I see enemy.
But takes me 4,5,6,7,8 bullets to kill.
Doesn't help that people from far away lands with pings exceeding 200 are joining euro servers.

Come on, general Asian server is empty with no server. I think this's a bug. Only Japan with their Japanese that I can't understand and communicate with that have active server room. So we non-Japanese from Asia have to escape to other servers.

[Mr. Chedda]

Originally posted by Sharky:

Originally posted by ferro:

Yeah it would make fights harder, that is better. You are delusional about the M249, it doesn't need an artificial suppression mechanic to make it valuable. You can mow down like 7 people with it in seconds.

The M249 isn't anywhere near as good as other weapons to choose from. Yeah, it has a big mag, but I can mow 7 people down with an m4 too. And kill them easier due to reduced recoil. If the game was different core mechanic wise, a higher TTK would work. But at its state, it's fine. I got a 46 - 11 game, I don't have issues with how the combat is. You'll have to adapt, and overcome.

You're not really addressing the point. The OP isn't suggesting that the game is too hard, and that they can't get kills.

I am in the same boat as you, I mow people down in this game. It's not difficult to do that. But thats also why i agree with OP -- its too f****ing easy. I just see a target, click on him, and done. meh. i want longer skirmishes. heated battles.

theres nothing fun about getting 1 popped in the heat of the moment either. i'd like to be able to react and make ♥♥♥♥ happen. in the current state of the game, i cannot.

[deserted_goat]

Originally posted by ferro:

All I'm asking for is a higher skill ceiling, low ttk makes that impossible. You don't need to aim with low ttk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So one tap in the noggin at 300ms while full sprint is less skillful than hitting eating 3 headshots, running behind a wall to heal and then calling all the tms in the area to help teamshot?