Shotguns?

[Gore]

It hurts. :(

[32Alpha]

I know.

[LyneTian]

no

[gza]

Same :(

[Poofy]

Question is are they going to make shotguns realistic and blast people from 100 meters away. Or make them stop working past 10 (:<

[Rim Carrey]

Originally posted by Poofy:

Question is are they going to make shotguns realistic and blast people from 100 meters away. Or make them stop working past 10 (:<

They'd have to find a middle ground cause too realistic and the shotguns are OP. If the range sucks though then there is zero point using them.

[Trenton]

Originally posted by Poofy:

Question is are they going to make shotguns realistic and blast people from 100 meters away. Or make them stop working past 10 (:<

if you pick the Slug ammo you should be able to get a headshoot 100m away, but impossible to hipfire from close range unless you're 1m away from the target (and still have some chance of missing it)

maybe they can have the flechette ammo that deal low damage but makes you bleed so they force the enemy to bandage himself and can be great for Rush gamemode to come out of a stall.

[douglasdtlltd]

They should just be realistic with shotguns. Im tried of every game nerfing them because they dont like how they handle in a game versus RL.

Or just dont add them.

[VinceG]

Originally posted by Satan_Stoned:

Originally posted by douglasdtlltd:

They should just be realistic with shotguns. Im tried of every game nerfing them because they dont like how they handle in a game versus RL.

Or just dont add them.

Just by the way: If you are a fellow shotgun enjoyer then try Hell Let Loose just for the shotgun.^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmtGO-rE8Q

Just by the way: Please don't support Team17 by buying HLL

[TrueDeviL™]

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, they are hard to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

[WiseCog]

Originally posted by TrueDeviL™:

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, they are hard to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

How are Shotguns harder to balance then a Sniper? To me this makes no sense. A shotgun could be made close range only, while a sniper can technically be used at any range.
I don't know, but to me this makes no sense.

SMG's right now work at close range and medium range, LMG's barely work at close range and absolutely sucks medium-long range. How are these weapons not harder to balance as they are meant for more ranges? Shotgun is a one trick pony for short range.

Removing a weapon type simply makes the game "less" imo. More weapon types equal more fun.

[Troy]

Originally posted by TrueDeviL™:

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, they are hard to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

Fair enough. Tho one could dream of 8x scope R870 slug sniping

[Basilllisk]

Originally posted by TrueDeviL™:

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, we're too incompetent and lazy to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

Fixed it for you.

[WiseCog]

Originally posted by Basilllisk:

Originally posted by TrueDeviL™:

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, we're too incompetent and lazy to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

Fixed it for you.

I think that's a bit harsh. No need to use those words.

However to me it it feels like they are stubborn. Just because you made a decision in the past does not mean you can not give the "customer" what they want in the future. Being this set in stone is not good for a game dev.

Just because a certain affiliated twitch streamer does not want to see shotguns does not mean that it shouldn't be added.

[H1tSc4n]

Originally posted by WiseCog:

Originally posted by Basilllisk:

Fixed it for you.

I think that's a bit harsh. No need to use those words.

However to me it it feels like they are stubborn. Just because you made a decision in the past does not mean you can not give the "customer" what they want in the future. Being this set in stone is not good for a game dev.

Just because a certain twitch streamer does not want to see shotguns does not mean that it shouldn't be added.

They probably got annihilated by shotguns in BF4 and are still salty about that lol

[alxmstr]

Originally posted by TrueDeviL™:

Hi,

Shotguns will not be added to the game, they are hard to balance, so the design decision is, we're not putting them in.

Can you elaborate on balancing part a bit? Which balancing difficulties were you facing when you were considering shotguns? Maybe some people could provide theoretical solutions, and if not, hearing your perspective on the matter is interesting as hell anyways