SMG nerf when?

[JuiceBoxP]

No recoil, no bullet spread, laughable fall off damage, no reason to play anything else

[Petnavi]

When you complain enough. Oki is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot and can't think for himself. You need to drill it into his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ head, it's why when they nerfed the vector they didn't nerf every single SMG with the damage drop off change despite him saying he wants SMG's in a specific range meanwhile I can kill with the MP5 at 125 meters: because people only complained about the vector and not SMG's as a whole in loud enough numbers.

[Мистер Жабс]

+1, need more rifle guys

[w1l3ecoyot3]

rifles should be higher damage plus some wall penetration, smgs and the pdws use pistol rounds p90 = 5.7 PISTOL round should not be getting kills from 50 yds

[Fireserpent7]

Have you tried actually getting better at the game instead of blaming your lack of skill on the game?

[arti_llery]

Originally posted by w1l3ecoyot3:

rifles should be higher damage plus some wall penetration, smgs and the pdws use pistol rounds p90 = 5.7 PISTOL round should not be getting kills from 50 yds

The 5.7 has a decent range and some armor pen, if I remember right. the reason people get kills with the p90 from that range is the firerate ticks more hits than slower firing weapons, and then the server catches up.

[ANG81ofh1s_Mercy]

Originally posted by Fireserpent7:

Have you tried actually getting better at the game instead of blaming your lack of skill on the game?

nerd reply " owww get better ;-; "

[JuiceBoxP]

Originally posted by Fireserpent7:

Have you tried actually getting better at the game instead of blaming your lack of skill on the game?

You seem to misunderstand. I am not crying because i'm dying to SMG players. I genuinely care for the balance of the game.

The game is so much easier with an SMG. I'm saying this as someone who abused the hell out of MP5 and MP7 already and there is basically no contest here. SMGs are flat out better in 95% of the scenarios than every other type of gun in the game.

If you think SMGs are balanced and you aren't tearing everyone to ♥♥♥♥ with them you suck at the game honestly

[Lord Of Bebbanburg]

Originally posted by Fireserpent7:

Have you tried actually getting better at the game instead of blaming your lack of skill on the game?

Dude is delusional. When a LMG or a Rifle starts an engagement with an SMG this is what happens. The SMG user eats 3-4 shots directly to the body, has the time to TURN, and land 2-3 instant shots PERFECTLY at a range of 150+ and you die. It's magic. no other gun can do that but smgs. Higher velocity & caliber rifles being outgunned at a range by close quarter guns? It doesn't make any sense at all.