What is the point of Hk419 and G36

[Teo]

I hate to complain.
But I see so many posts about complaints against vector that nobody seems to be complaining about the real issue here:
Apart from a handful of weapons, most are compeltely useless and unbalanced.

You are complaining that Vector is OP, I say that most of the weapons are underbalanced.

I need to grind for over 80 hours to unlock these weapons and for what? M4 does literally everything better.

The random horizontal recoil pattern makes these weapons inconsistent compared to M4 and DPS wise they are in the same category (Less damage higher fire rate).

What the heck is the point of these weapons if they offer no advantage to a base gun that I can use from the start?

AK5C is the last weapon you unlock and it is so underwhelming it may as well not be there.
There are more weapons like these.

If I were to be honest this game has nothing on balancing in Battlefield.

[Nutsmasher]

HK419 is slightly inferior to AK74 of you build both optimally. That makes it bad because it takes so long to unlock it.

[Nascarman]

very confused by this post as g36c is a better m4 and ak74

[Teo]

Originally posted by Nascarman:

very confused by this post as g36c is a better m4 and ak74

How?
It has slightly higher TTK (by around 7%) and a lot higher horizontal recoil which is random and it increases inconsistency.

[Nascarman]

Originally posted by Teo:

Originally posted by Nascarman:

very confused by this post as g36c is a better m4 and ak74

How?
It has slightly higher TTK (by around 7%) and a lot higher horizontal recoil which is random and it increases inconsistency.

horizontal recoil only gets bad when it’s above 1.7, the 1.0 horizontal recoil of the g36c is literally unnoticeable.

[Teo]

Originally posted by Nascarman:

Originally posted by Teo:

How?
It has slightly higher TTK (by around 7%) and a lot higher horizontal recoil which is random and it increases inconsistency.

horizontal recoil only gets bad when it’s above 1.7, the 1.0 horizontal recoil of the g36c is literally unnoticeable.

Not if you are going for 100m+

I could just run with Groza and dominate at the same distance with literally zero recoil and higher TTK.

[Chanrevo]

Originally posted by Teo:

Originally posted by Nascarman:

horizontal recoil only gets bad when it’s above 1.7, the 1.0 horizontal recoil of the g36c is literally unnoticeable.

Not if you are going for 100m+

I could just run with Groza and dominate at the same distance with literally zero recoil and higher TTK.

He's right, I can't control any assault rifle over range quite like any of the other SMGs. The kick isn't so bad as the camera being strangled by an angry leprechaun

[Nascarman]

Originally posted by Teo:

Originally posted by Nascarman:

horizontal recoil only gets bad when it’s above 1.7, the 1.0 horizontal recoil of the g36c is literally unnoticeable.

Not if you are going for 100m+

I could just run with Groza and dominate at the same distance with literally zero recoil and higher TTK.

considering falloff at 100m the ar probably still does out dps the groza due to higher fire rate

out to 100+ you should actually be using something like the sg550 that has a long effective firing range before falloff occurs

[Just Juicy]

''I need to grind for over 80 hours to unlock these weapons and for what? M4 does literally everything better.'' Ever real Bf play enjoys the Number's of different weapons. I can play every 5 lvl a new weaopn and i have on every weapon 200 kills.(enjoy design technical differences) There doesn't have to be a better weapon for every lvl just pick one you like and get good with it. Take ya pills troll and just play the game or delete it. Meta cu*ck

[TJ]

That's like saying what's the point of the RSH revolver? I have a deagle before it...
Every game has late unlocks that seem useless to you personally. Not every shares that same view tho. As i maybe like the look of the RSH revolver compared to the deagle...
Use what feels good to you. Stop 'grinding' and just ptfo...

[Thndslz]

Originally posted by Nutsmasher:

HK419 is slightly inferior to AK74 of you build both optimally. That makes it bad because it takes so long to unlock it.

The 419 in my 400 kill experience is a bad, bad weapon. This ♥♥♥♥ only started to being a real weapon after i got LongBarrel. Before it this weapon was good for one thing: giving me migraine.