smgs seem really really OP?

[76561198850337452]

Prefacing this by saying I am a new player, so I don't have the experience, but SMG's seem really damn OP. They have crazy fire-rate, barely any recoil and some offer good mag size too. Mobility as well. Honestly quite frustrating dying to an SMG all the time when ****IMO**** they shouldn't be this strong, always the same Vector, Honeybadger or P90.

INB4 skill issue
yeah. I said I'm new. but EVERYBODY who is at the top of the scoreboard is using 1 of those smgs

[[STG] Dante]

smg's definitely need a hard accuracy nerf, ppl at medium to long range lazer beaming ppl, but up close they should dominate.

[76561198850337452]

Originally posted by STG Dante:

smg's definitely need a hard accuracy nerf, ppl at medium to long range lazer beaming ppl, but up close they should dominate.

yeah exactly my thoughts, it's really annoying engaging in a mid range battle with an AR against an SMG and they just beam you completely. I get that recoil control is a part of the game, but honestly, mine ain't that bad, and they need to put in like 2% of the effort for the same result.

[fabulicious.]

Honey badger isn’t op. I’ve 1.2k kills with it, it has small mag and annoying recoil. PDWs are trash imo. Vector and mp7 are OP at least.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Originally posted by 76561198850337452:

Prefacing this by saying I am a new player, so I don't have the experience, but SMG's seem really damn OP. They have crazy fire-rate, barely any recoil and some offer good mag size too. Mobility as well. Honestly quite frustrating dying to an SMG all the time when ****IMO**** they shouldn't be this strong, always the same Vector, Honeybadger or P90.

INB4 skill issue
yeah. I said I'm new. but EVERYBODY who is at the top of the scoreboard is using 1 of those smgs

Don't mind the “skill issues” nonsense if it ever comes in this thread. SMG's are really too much strong in medium distance as it stands now. In close distance, SMGs are supposed to dominate.

Also, DMRs need some love.

Balance patches are coming, but it seems that right now DEVs are prioritizing some more urgent matters (it's an early access title).

[Nascarman]

Originally posted by fabulicious.:

Honey badger isn’t op. I’ve 1.2k kills with it, it has small mag and annoying recoil. PDWs are trash imo. Vector and mp7 are OP at least.

groza and p90 are some of the best weapons in the game??? not sure why you think pdw’s are bad

[76561198850337452]

Good to know I'm not the only one with this opition, found another great post explaining more about this in detail too. The SMG's outshine everything honestly, the first time I tried the PP2000? I think it was called it was ridiculous how easy it was to kill with it, control the recoil, the fact it has 40 in the mag aswell...

[fabulicious.]

Originally posted by Nascarman:

Originally posted by fabulicious.:

Honey badger isn’t op. I’ve 1.2k kills with it, it has small mag and annoying recoil. PDWs are trash imo. Vector and mp7 are OP at least.

groza and p90 are some of the best weapons in the game??? not sure why you think pdw’s are bad

I don’t have p90 yet. Groza is decent but mp7 and vector are just better!

[jeffpmaxs6]

How can any gun be OP if everyone can use it? I mean is it guaranteed to turn everyone into a Rambo? Lol. Or if it’s an OP gun then why doesn’t everyone use it? Maybe when I use the guns and go from 15 kills to 115 I’ll complain about it. Lol

[76561198850337452]

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

How can any gun be OP if everyone can use it? I mean is it guaranteed to turn everyone into a Rambo? Lol. Or if it’s an OP gun then why doesn’t everyone use it? Maybe when I use the guns and go from 15 kills to 115 I’ll complain about it. Lol

That is indeed what happened to me though, of course not as drastic, but I get SIGNIFICANTLY more kills when I use SMG's, but it's just no-fun because it takes nearly 0 skill. Outclasses AR's in medium range, where they dominate, outclasses in close range, but this is excuseable, because that's what SMG's are made to do, and, hell, with their super-easily controllable recoil, even in long-ish range I can take out AR players.

[Angry Mob Justice]

Originally posted by 76561198850337452:

Good to know I'm not the only one with this opition, found another great post explaining more about this in detail too. The SMG's outshine everything honestly, the first time I tried the PP2000? I think it was called it was ridiculous how easy it was to kill with it, control the recoil, the fact it has 40 in the mag aswell...

People sleeping on the PP2000 and you don't get trash talked for using one lol

[ThotsBContagious]

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

How can any gun be OP if everyone can use it? I mean is it guaranteed to turn everyone into a Rambo? Lol. Or if it’s an OP gun then why doesn’t everyone use it? Maybe when I use the guns and go from 15 kills to 115 I’ll complain about it. Lol

If everyone uses it, its op. Which every single combat situation I get into its an smg

[Taz3rrrFac3]

Originally posted by TrueWarlord真の武:

Originally posted by 76561198850337452:

Prefacing this by saying I am a new player, so I don't have the experience, but SMG's seem really damn OP. They have crazy fire-rate, barely any recoil and some offer good mag size too. Mobility as well. Honestly quite frustrating dying to an SMG all the time when ****IMO**** they shouldn't be this strong, always the same Vector, Honeybadger or P90.

INB4 skill issue
yeah. I said I'm new. but EVERYBODY who is at the top of the scoreboard is using 1 of those smgs

Don't mind the “skill issues” nonsense if it ever comes in this thread. SMG's are really too much strong in medium distance as it stands now. In close distance, SMGs are supposed to dominate.

Also, DMRs need some love.

Balance patches are coming, but it seems that right now DEVs are prioritizing some more urgent matters (it's an early access title).

THIS I can agree with my friend.. Even though we have had our fair share of diasgreements.
Have an award :D

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Originally posted by Taz3rrrFac3:

Originally posted by TrueWarlord真の武:

Don't mind the “skill issues” nonsense if it ever comes in this thread. SMG's are really too much strong in medium distance as it stands now. In close distance, SMGs are supposed to dominate.

Also, DMRs need some love.

Balance patches are coming, but it seems that right now DEVs are prioritizing some more urgent matters (it's an early access title).

THIS I can agree with my friend.. Even though we have had our fair share of diasgreements.
Have an award :D

That's actually pretty cool, to be honest. It shows a level of maturity when we can disagree on some things but still find common ground on others. We probably agree on more things than we realize. It's just that sometimes we focus too much on the disagreements xD

[Taz3rrrFac3]

Originally posted by TrueWarlord真の武:

Originally posted by Taz3rrrFac3:

THIS I can agree with my friend.. Even though we have had our fair share of diasgreements.
Have an award :D

That's actually pretty cool, to be honest. It shows a level of maturity when we can disagree on some things but still find common ground on others. We probably agree on more things than we realize. It's just that sometimes we focus too much on the disagreements xD

High five amigo!
See you on the battlefield :D

[jeffpmaxs6]

Originally posted by 76561198850337452:

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

How can any gun be OP if everyone can use it? I mean is it guaranteed to turn everyone into a Rambo? Lol. Or if it’s an OP gun then why doesn’t everyone use it? Maybe when I use the guns and go from 15 kills to 115 I’ll complain about it. Lol

That is indeed what happened to me though, of course not as drastic, but I get SIGNIFICANTLY more kills when I use SMG's, but it's just no-fun because it takes nearly 0 skill. Outclasses AR's in medium range, where they dominate, outclasses in close range, but this is excuseable, because that's what SMG's are made to do, and, hell, with their super-easily controllable recoil, even in long-ish range I can take out AR players.

Well I guess there’s just no skill in the game at all. SMG take no skill, sniping takes no skill and spraying and praying takes no skill. Knifes only : /

Originally posted by ThotsBContagious:

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

How can any gun be OP if everyone can use it? I mean is it guaranteed to turn everyone into a Rambo? Lol. Or if it’s an OP gun then why doesn’t everyone use it? Maybe when I use the guns and go from 15 kills to 115 I’ll complain about it. Lol

If everyone uses it, its op. Which every single combat situation I get into its an smg

Na, if both teams use it, it’s not op. There’s such thing as a noob guns, so if using it knowing it, then it just makes the player a noob and everyone knows. Sort of like medics in BF3 with the med train.