PLEASE !1!! WORK TOGETHER AS SQUAD AND TEAM! I BEG YOU :D QUADRUPLE XP !!!

[J4N]

This stuff is making me crazy! Most of the rounds on 127 vs 127 conquest everybody is running around clueless, not reviving teammates that are lying right next to them (YOU GET XP FOR THAT!), only healing themselves, or supporters dropping no ammo, camping on the other side of the map hoping for some stationary kills, or half the team is just sniping and nobody is actually playing the objective. AAARG!!! :D

If you start to play the game like it's meant to be played, you get rewarded not just through xp but through very rewarding gamplay, which involves TEAMPLAY in the squads.
If you actually move with your squad, spawn on them, attack the point the squad leader (hopefully) set and and try to work together, you will see that you can do a lot more and get a lot more kills and XP!!! DOUBLE XP!!! :D sry

Me personally, I don't need all that lootbox gambling nonesense in games. It should be about the gameplay and not about the leveling system or unlocks.
Most of the time I play as supporter. But if the squad already has three of them I maybe switch to medic or engineer.
If we get constantly pinned by snipers I try to find the sniper SPOT IT FOR THE REST OF THE TEAM and try to take him out. Maybe we spawn elsewhere and sneak on him from behind if possible, which can be a fun task as well. USE THE MAP and SPOT ENEMIES AND VEHICLES! Helps everybody and gives QUADROUPLE XP!!!! sry again :D

About the weapons, there are more than enough options to pick from. In the beginning you don't have all the attatchments, so YOU HAVE TO PLAY IN A SLOWER PACE MAYBE. Try to stay behind and get some kills. After some time you will get a feeling for the weapon, what it is good at and where it sucks. You need to adopt your playstyle to this.
What I am saying is, don't act as if you were playing cod or whatever egoshooter you played before, because here it's meant to be about teamplay, working together.
Sure, it somehow "works" without it, but then you have those chaotic rounds where everybody is running everywhere and you get killed from all angles.

If you try to react to the given situation you will have a better experience!
It's awesome to rush a point with the whole squad or defend a position because the enemy can't break your lines, BECAUSE YOU WORK TOGETHER! That is the best experience I can get in this game! Intense firefights and nobody is left behind!
Nerfing everything will not help the game at all. Some stuff needs to be fixed but most of the complains are like "I did not get 100-0 kd with this gun or that perk so it's broken or the other gun that killed me is toooo OP!!1!1!" and so on. Yeah, Vector IS op and needs nerf :D

I play conquest most of the time. And I really am here for the large scale battles.
But that's just my opinion. For me the last "real" battlefield were bf2 and bf2142 (not 2042!). The loss of 6 men squads and the commander slot was a huge downgrade (imo). Yeah, but that was probably before a lot of those lootbox gambling junkies were even born and they have no idea what I am talking about..
You can call me grandpa now and thanks for the therapy session^^
Had to get rid of that.. and now have a nice game everybody;)

[Agent Sandman]

The game in its current design rewards team play with XP but rewards my KD by Zerg rushing with an SMG. So, 90%+ of people Zerg rush with SMG’s. The issue isn’t the people as much as it is the current build.

[J4N]

Originally posted by Agent Sandman:

The game in its current design rewards team play with XP but rewards my KD by Zerg rushing with an SMG. So, 90%+ of people Zerg rush with SMG’s. The issue isn’t the people as much as it is the current build.

Yeah and you have no option or somebody is forcing you do play like that? I just said forget about the k/d and try some teamplay.
I had those rounds where both teams played as an actual team and used the power of squads using voicechat. There is no room for someone rushing in on a team that is healping each other, spotting the rusher, making calls and prepairing for his next try.
I think the game should reward teamplay a lot more, I am with that and maybe nerf the range of the smgs a bit. But tbh I haven't tried them a lot so far, just keep reading it and sure that vector showed up on my killscreen as well^^ but I usually have more fun playing the underdog guns. Where is the fun if it is too easy and you have nothing to learn?

[Crachis]

jajajajajja this game is smg a kill all player

[Agent Sandman]

Originally posted by J4N:

Originally posted by Agent Sandman:

The game in its current design rewards team play with XP but rewards my KD by Zerg rushing with an SMG. So, 90%+ of people Zerg rush with SMG’s. The issue isn’t the people as much as it is the current build.

Yeah and you have no option or somebody is forcing you do play like that? I just said forget about the k/d and try some teamplay.
I had those rounds where both teams played as an actual team and used the power of squads using voicechat. There is no room for someone rushing in on a team that is healping each other, spotting the rusher, making calls and prepairing for his next try.
I think the game should reward teamplay a lot more, I am with that and maybe nerf the range of the smgs a bit. But tbh I haven't tried them a lot so far, just keep reading it and sure that vector showed up on my killscreen as well^^ but I usually have more fun playing the underdog guns. Where is the fun if it is too easy and you have nothing to learn?

“Why would I forget my KD when zerging people is why I play this game” ….said 90% of the player base.
You want team focused gameplay, go play Squad. Like I said earlier, in the games current build, it’s not set up to encourage team play vs zerging. It’s not about being forced to play a certain way, it’s about rewarding dopamine rushes by dropping 4 people with a Vector in .5 seconds lol that’s the player base this game attracts. That is why more people don’t play like you want.
Seriously go play squad. Based on OP you’ll love it.

[Ailes]

Regarding not reviving others, that sometimes has other reasons. Things can be so chaotic and fast that reviving others will often result in even more teammates dieing. And they all get up with very little health and eneed to be healed first too before being able to properly engage enemies. That too can be a massive vulnerability. All it takes is one nade or one enemy rushing you and you're all dead. I still usuall try to revive (and I usually aren't even playing medic) but like 2/3 of the time it kinda backfires.

[pruitcake]

90% of people playing this game are brainless apes tbh. Hard to get any coordination going when most players are just bum rushing objectives and getting gunned down from every angle. Or they're just sat a mile back with a sniper and getting one kill every 5 minutes.

[Whortleberry]

'Play the game like it's meant to be played'
Maybe not everyone wants that, go play Squad or something and leave people alone. It's popular for a reason, and your opinion isn't it son.

[J4N]

Originally posted by Agent Sandman:

Originally posted by J4N:

Yeah and you have no option or somebody is forcing you do play like that? I just said forget about the k/d and try some teamplay.
I had those rounds where both teams played as an actual team and used the power of squads using voicechat. There is no room for someone rushing in on a team that is healping each other, spotting the rusher, making calls and prepairing for his next try.
I think the game should reward teamplay a lot more, I am with that and maybe nerf the range of the smgs a bit. But tbh I haven't tried them a lot so far, just keep reading it and sure that vector showed up on my killscreen as well^^ but I usually have more fun playing the underdog guns. Where is the fun if it is too easy and you have nothing to learn?

“Why would I forget my KD when zerging people is why I play this game” ….said 90% of the player base.
You want team focused gameplay, go play Squad. Like I said earlier, in the games current build, it’s not set up to encourage team play vs zerging. It’s not about being forced to play a certain way, it’s about rewarding dopamine rushes by dropping 4 people with a Vector in .5 seconds lol that’s the player base this game attracts. That is why more people don’t play like you want.
Seriously go play squad. Based on OP you’ll love it.

dude, I have squad, arma, arma reforger, and all those other titles. I know all that. I play since bf1942 and this game here is clearly a hybrid of arma and bf2. But since a lot people never played that they think it has to be played like an ego shooter. The casual gamer just wants to kill and that's fine. I am just saying this game offeres a lot more and can be more fun for those who are interested in squadplay if you do not just rush in like brainless apes all the time..
But sure, a brainless ape think that's fun and they have the right to^^

[J4N]

Originally posted by Ailes:

Regarding not reviving others, that sometimes has other reasons. Things can be so chaotic and fast that reviving others will often result in even more teammates dieing. And they all get up with very little health and eneed to be healed first too before being able to properly engage enemies. That too can be a massive vulnerability. All it takes is one nade or one enemy rushing you and you're all dead. I still usuall try to revive (and I usually aren't even playing medic) but like 2/3 of the time it kinda backfires.

I can understand that but at that point something else is not working correctly. There should be teammates nearby who could support covering fire and drag you out. Experienced that not just once. It can work. Sure there are situations where nobody should and can help you.

But most of the time I feel like playing cod or something. Which again is fine as a game but in my opinion the focus of this game is a different one. The devs should make a helpfull tutorial or something to really show its systems better, so that new players who are not familar with this stuff get an idea. I have to blame that on the game. But maybe this will come in the future. I haven't figured out what the commander slot will be for. Looks like bf2 commander system in the making to me. Not sure but would be great (and probably useless cause nobody cares :D oh man)

[J4N]

Originally posted by pruitcake:

90% of people playing this game are brainless apes tbh. Hard to get any coordination going when most players are just bum rushing objectives and getting gunned down from every angle. Or they're just sat a mile back with a sniper and getting one kill every 5 minutes.

yeah sadly :D

[Agent Sandman]

Originally posted by J4N:

Originally posted by Agent Sandman:

“Why would I forget my KD when zerging people is why I play this game” ….said 90% of the player base.
You want team focused gameplay, go play Squad. Like I said earlier, in the games current build, it’s not set up to encourage team play vs zerging. It’s not about being forced to play a certain way, it’s about rewarding dopamine rushes by dropping 4 people with a Vector in .5 seconds lol that’s the player base this game attracts. That is why more people don’t play like you want.
Seriously go play squad. Based on OP you’ll love it.

dude, I have squad, arma, arma reforger, and all those other titles. I know all that. I play since bf1942 and this game here is clearly a hybrid of arma and bf2. But since a lot people never played that they think it has to be played like an ego shooter. The casual gamer just wants to kill and that's fine. I am just saying this game offeres a lot more and can be more fun for those who are interested in squadplay if you do not just rush in like brainless apes all the time..
But sure, a brainless ape think that's fun and they have the right to^^

If you have those games, go play them and *stop whining to the community* about how you think everyone else should or shouldn’t be playing. I tried to stay humorous and civil but you’re clearly entrenched in a juvenile mindset and want to argue when presented with statistical realities on how people play this game. I truly do not understand you…you have self admitted to owning ALL the games that promote the EXACT type of gameplay that you are taking to the forums and whining about. Go play them. It’s pretty clear that nobody else agrees with you. Grow up.

[J4N]

Originally posted by Whortleberry:

'Play the game like it's meant to be played'
Maybe not everyone wants that, go play Squad or something and leave people alone. It's popular for a reason, and your opinion isn't it son.

dude, please don't feel offended by that. I just meant that there are systems like the squad system or the spotting system and the voicechat at last which exist for a reason and can help the gameplay in a huge way. That is what I mean by "meant to be played like". Nobody includes systems in a game where he does not want them to be used by the players.
But if the players do not know about it, I guess they can't benefit from it..

[J4N]

Originally posted by Agent Sandman:

Originally posted by J4N:

dude, I have squad, arma, arma reforger, and all those other titles. I know all that. I play since bf1942 and this game here is clearly a hybrid of arma and bf2. But since a lot people never played that they think it has to be played like an ego shooter. The casual gamer just wants to kill and that's fine. I am just saying this game offeres a lot more and can be more fun for those who are interested in squadplay if you do not just rush in like brainless apes all the time..
But sure, a brainless ape think that's fun and they have the right to^^

If you have those games, go play them and *stop whining to the community* about how you think everyone else should or shouldn’t be playing. I tried to stay humorous and civil but you’re clearly entrenched in a juvenile mindset and want to argue when presented with statistical realities on how people play this game. I truly do not understand you…you have self admitted to owning ALL the games that promote the EXACT type of gameplay that you are taking to the forums and whining about. Go play them. It’s pretty clear that nobody else agrees with you. Grow up or shut up.

No it' s not the exact type of gameplay I am searching for. I am searching for a bf2/ arma clone which has squad system, spotting and teamplay involved. Looks like I just found it. And guess what, since the devs have programmed everything needed for that, I encourage you to use the systems.
But I guess guys like you are not here for the teamplay. It's pure ego game. It's obviously a mindset where helping others is stupid cause you can die. Yeah maybe you should go find another game yourself because I don't think you understand the systems included in this one. Just because you can actually act like that it does not mean you have to btw.^^

[BÆRD]

People are lemmings and won't think for themselves. Most will play it lazily around the few flags their team owns. A good SL, with a decent rally away from the central flag can make a massive difference IF their squad follows.

[J4N]

Originally posted by BÆRD:

People are lemmings and won't think for themselves. Most will play it lazily around the few flags their team owns. A good SL, with a decent rally away from the central flag can make a massive difference IF their squad follows.

yeah, again, sadly. I had rounds where it was like playing bf2 again^^ 4 working squads at least, because of that we had something like a frontline we managed to push further (it was conquest mode). Mates were spotting vehicles and snipers. Calls were made. When you were killed you were revived in a second. Ammo boxes and spawn flags with fortifications around. It was a dream :D
But since days I try to find a good conquest round with working squads. Most of the time I join one after another just to see on the map where they are and most of the time they are sperated all over the map with no ability to revive or support each other. Nearly no squads moving together providing cover in any way to each other. That sucks and is such a big difference to when you have a team that more or less knows what it is doing.
If this game here hadn't nearly everything in place needed for what I would wish for.. and if there hadn't been those glorious rounds.. I don't know^^