Why Communication Bans are best for in-game text/voice chat rule infractions.

[Yuri Enjoyer Deluxe #YuriTF2]

I thought about what one guy said and I feel this applies best as to why I think a straight up game ban for saying the n word felt like absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me:

Originally posted by Nolo:

i said this before i don't think you should take away the ability to play the game but rather the ability to communicate, is it also fair to say I think its a bit of 50/50 and that maybe it is just possible for unpaid mods to be heavy-handed and say somebody said a bad word and to perma ban them?

This right here I feel perfectly describes my feelings on this. Why would I get a ban from playing the game entirely for words I said? Bans from playing the game (period) should be reserved to cheaters and exploiters, not a bunch of adults dropping "hurtful" or non-PC words in vc or public chat. (For clarity, all I said was the n word by itself, and thats it. Nothing more, nothing less, and no one showed any express dislike for it, and yet I got banned for 4 days.)

At that stage, might as well take away communication if you are so afraid of that, and this tends to make people enjoy a game less (referring to giving game bans for in-game words).

For example, in TF2, there are Skial servers where if you say certain words it doesnt like, it will ban you for a certain period from talking in the voice or text chat for those servers. This is fair as it allows them to still enjoy the game, even if they cant communicate. Sure, it can be annoying to not be able to communicate, but you can still use yer weapons regardless. Ban from the game just ends up annoying people into playing less.

By all means, I know im still gonna get that ass banned till Monday, I have expended enough energy on that, but aint no way im letting any other mfs get hit with the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I was hit with, so hopefully this is taken into consideration, despite it all.

Thank you.

[BaMxIRE]

lol

[AnvilHouse]

You break the rules after being prompted with them every time you join a game, you then still break said rules regardless.

If you can't understand the very basic rules that they lay out, why do you think you should still have access to their service at all? A person willfully breaking an EULA is grounds to completely remove you from a service. Be happy it is only a temp ban.

[Yuri Enjoyer Deluxe #YuriTF2]

Originally posted by AnvilHouse:

You break the rules after being prompted with them every time you join a game, you then still break said rules regardless.

If you can't understand the very basic rules that they lay out, why do you think you should still have access to their service at all? A person willfully breaking an EULA is grounds to completely remove you from a service. Be happy it is only a ban.

Swing and a miss.

This completely misses my point. My point is that in-game text chat and voice chat ♥♥♥♥ should have communication bans, not gameplay bans. I still think my ban is dumb, but at this point ive come to accept that, and I feel if im gonna ♥♥♥♥♥, might as well be useful. And communication bans just make much more sense to me.

Why should I be gameplay banned for words when the offense has nothing to do with ruining the player experience via in-game cheating/exploits or any gamplay actions (not including communication)? When you ban someone, its based on what they do, you wouldnt exactly ban someone from a bathroom because they said slurs in a classroom yeah? You would ban them from the school because thats appropriate and relevant to the offense committed.

So why is that same logic not applied here? Because 'yer a racist, therefore you dont deserve anything!'? Moderation should never be dictated by feelings, thats how we get Reddit Mods. And by that virtue, bans for in-game ♥♥♥♥ shouldnt be dictated by how offended someone is. Bans should be dictated by actions. Communication Bans should be reserved for communication offenses, gameplay bans should be reserved for gameplay offenses. They should not be under the same umbrella.

They need to set a clear basis on what they dont allow, ♥♥♥♥♥ vague as to what is and isnt a llowed. What constitues as racism? Dropping the n bomb regardless of context? Thats such a shoe fits all system, which doesnt make sense. Oughta make a list for this.

Orrrrr.... we could have minimal moderation, let the boys be boys and only step in once things get majorly outta hand. I just really do not like this system, period. I really hope no mfs fall into the same trap I have.

And I forgot to mention, but the ban in question was for saying the n word. Thats it. Never said it in a racist or derogatory context, just simply said the n word by itself, and then next day, banned. I appeal and I get:"Stays as is, no further discussion". Unbelievable.
Imma sign off here then. I am so tired.

[JonJaded]

While I get this, I feel like it would just sprout a large base of team griefers/reactionists from getting banned. Permabans are insane to me, for words that are just typed though, but when you take a step back and you look at the dev team, the legit skeleton crew barely keeping this game together... in a weird way, I kinda understand. They're not at the same liberty someone like Ubisoft or EA is when deliberating consequences for infractions.

My question is.. in this day and age when EVERYTHING is recorded, everything is logged.. why would you want to even to play with the fire that burns?

[Intel]

while it is annoying to be perma-gagged, it is a solution to toxicity.