Sniper is way too strong

[David Fifield]

Sniper is wayy too easy, you barely have to lead...you can cycle shots very fast....throw on 4x and now you don't even have the glare. Many maps have terrible cover. Honestly so annoying seeing half the people playing sniper...give it an ADS penalty so you can't quickscope with it...give it a bigger penalty when moving and aiming.

[YME]

the issue is mostly becuase of zeroing in; I think it would be better when you have a range finder you can't zero in the scope; but actually use the scope indicators of the bullet drop

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by YME:

the issue is mostly becuase of zeroing in; I think it would be better when you have a range finder you can't zero in the scope; but actually use the scope indicators of the bullet drop

the problem is there is very little drop on the later snipers and they're pretty much hitscan. The Vector is also so insanely busted. All the weapons are poorly balanced in general. Put a red dot and I can full auto someone 80m away with m4...put on a 4x scope and there is so much scope bounce I can barely single fire it at the same range

[Philip Pino]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by YME:

the issue is mostly becuase of zeroing in; I think it would be better when you have a range finder you can't zero in the scope; but actually use the scope indicators of the bullet drop

the problem is there is very little drop on the later snipers and they're pretty much hitscan. The Vector is also so insanely busted. All the weapons are poorly balanced in general. Put a red dot and I can full auto someone 80m away with m4...put on a 4x scope and there is so much scope bounce I can barely single fire it at the same range

my longest kill with an AR was 164 meters, but with the ak15, and for the 4x scope you have to learn to do a better recoil controll, but in general the 4x is useless on ARs

[カミナ]

LOL bro sniper is one of the worst things in the game. Takes me like twice as much effort to put up kills with compared to some broken lazer beam ar.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ:

LOL bro sniper is one of the worst things in the game. Takes me like twice as much effort to put up kills with compared to some broken lazer beam ar.

Are you jk? It's so easy to snipe in this game...the snipers after the first are basically hitscan. There is like a mm of drop...BF3 sniping is 10x harder than this game. The maps are designed to make it easy as possible to just sniper. Laser beam AR has massive drop when you shoot at someone 100m away. The AR's basically suck at actual AR range and get outclassed by the SMGS at close and med range.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by Nukeasshole:

Originally posted by Jake:

the problem is there is very little drop on the later snipers and they're pretty much hitscan. The Vector is also so insanely busted. All the weapons are poorly balanced in general. Put a red dot and I can full auto someone 80m away with m4...put on a 4x scope and there is so much scope bounce I can barely single fire it at the same range

my longest kill with an AR was 164 meters, but with the ak15, and for the 4x scope you have to learn to do a better recoil controll, but in general the 4x is useless on ARs

It's really not controllable lol. You need to single fire...but the single fire does terrible damage and the gun has massive bullet drop. It's insane how bad the game has weapon balance compared to something like Insurgency.

[Royal Tea]

Too easy? Heavy armor takes two shots in the head and 3 to the body hardly over powered.

[3.1415926]

Yes, Snipers are strong since Battlefield 1942, but you have smoke grenade, do you?

[カミナ]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ:

LOL bro sniper is one of the worst things in the game. Takes me like twice as much effort to put up kills with compared to some broken lazer beam ar.

Are you jk? It's so easy to snipe in this game...the snipers after the first are basically hitscan. There is like a mm of drop...BF3 sniping is 10x harder than this game. The maps are designed to make it easy as possible to just sniper. Laser beam AR has massive drop when you shoot at someone 100m away. The AR's basically suck at actual AR range and get outclassed by the SMGS at close and med range.

They aren't basically hitscan LMFAO try hitting a running target at 300m in the head. It's definitely NOT hitscan. What a joke.

Not to the fact that they aren't even guaranteed head shot 1 shot against everyone in the game. Sniper is a joke.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ:

Originally posted by Jake:

Are you jk? It's so easy to snipe in this game...the snipers after the first are basically hitscan. There is like a mm of drop...BF3 sniping is 10x harder than this game. The maps are designed to make it easy as possible to just sniper. Laser beam AR has massive drop when you shoot at someone 100m away. The AR's basically suck at actual AR range and get outclassed by the SMGS at close and med range.

They aren't basically hitscan LMFAO try hitting a running target at 300m in the head. It's definitely NOT hitscan. What a joke.

Not to the fact that they aren't even guaranteed head shot 1 shot against everyone in the game. Sniper is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5LGomiUuSE

at the very beginning look how little he has to lead while he is standing and moving.....from 400m. When you snipe people from 150m it's point and click with l96..the whole game just has terrible balancing..tanks move like a gocart, the chopper gunner can't even kill a player with 3 bullets....everyone runs groza/vector/sniper, the maps are designed to be chaotic as ♥♥♥♥ as there are 90000000 angles to get shot from and then there is the netcode...

[SHAKE_N_BAKE]

Sniper sucks in this game. freaking awful recoil and follow-up shots takes forever to just get a few kills. Everyone is indoors going building to building and CQB. With the few maps with open fields majority of those shots either have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of trees or taking a shot halfway across the map that don't even drop anyone, just gives an assist when they do eventually die. I don't know what you're going on about.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ:

LOL bro sniper is one of the worst things in the game. Takes me like twice as much effort to put up kills with compared to some broken lazer beam ar.

Are you jk? It's so easy to snipe in this game...the snipers after the first are basically hitscan. There is like a mm of drop...BF3 sniping is 10x harder than this game. The maps are designed to make it easy as possible to just sniper. Laser beam AR has massive drop when you shoot at someone 100m away. The AR's basically suck at actual AR range and get outclassed by the SMGS at close and med range.

SV and rem are not hitscan at range what are you even on?

Sounds to me you dont know how to play AR.

Also good job.

You have used a video of a guy who has sniped in games for over a decade.

[Buntkreuz]

"half the people".
I played 4 matches today and at any given time the sniper class in my team had about 1-2 out of 8.
Which means in total, not a lot.
Most seem to play Medic and other CQC classes.
The enemy team is also mostly void of them. So as of now, i cant confirm the sentiment of "too many".
Like, considering its 127 on each side, i think 5-10 are absolutely fine.

[Remi]

I agree sniping is very easy in this due to realistic velocity and drop, I know this because I can snipe decently which is mind boggling (I suck hard). However counter sniping is equally easy and so is harassment with assault rifles. If you know a sniper is gunning for you it's not too hard to evade the incoming shots, while peppering them with varying degrees of accuracy depending on the gun (AUG is great for this).

Key thing to remember to not die to a sniper. Don't sit still, not even for a second. There are so many people on the map that they will just find a more attractive target. And if you do get sniped on the move, then it was a good shot, move on or go hunt the guy and get revenge.

[Arnie Rimsy BSc.SSc.]

I don't like snipers at all. You can't use them near a corner or ledge without the scope unscoping. Same with laying on a ledge, your character bugs out constantly.