is there any evidence that this game is full of cheaters?

[Nyktal]

Personally, I have never seen a flyhack or an aimbot. Or some other type of cheat. I don't understand how can anyone want to cheat when the game has gameplay that doesn't make you want to cheat.

[Toilet Paper Merchant]

Yes there are many, if you want to speed up the process of reporting them, try DMing the modmail bot on discord and send video clips. You can use OBS to record, its a free open source software and use some sort of file hosting service like Mega to upload the clips.

[Vilamo]

Автор сообщения: CtrlAltDelicious

Look up the video called "Saving FPS Games - AI Anti-Cheat".

It's literally proven FACT that 1 out of every 3 players in an online FPS game is a cheater.

It's not speculation, it's not hearsay. It's literally PROVEN FACT.

At this point those that continue to deny have their heads so deep in the sand they might as well bury the rest of their bodies and be done with it.

Source to back up the claim of that high percentage?

[True Winger]

Автор сообщения: Vilamo

Автор сообщения: CtrlAltDelicious

Look up the video called "Saving FPS Games - AI Anti-Cheat".

It's literally proven FACT that 1 out of every 3 players in an online FPS game is a cheater.

It's not speculation, it's not hearsay. It's literally PROVEN FACT.

At this point those that continue to deny have their heads so deep in the sand they might as well bury the rest of their bodies and be done with it.

Source to back up the claim of that high percentage?

In the video he suggested (but didn't link), there are a couple graphs that are on-screen for less than a second which show some figures at ~30%. Those numbers are not explained at all.

The people who talk from under an NDA say 10-15-20% confirmed, but not really from what games.

Almost like the video is trying to sell something! :D

I'll believe ~10-20% in Call of Duty or similar titles. Dunno about other games, since no specifics are explained in the video.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Автор сообщения: CtrlAltDelicious

Автор сообщения: RickWinger

That video claims a lot of different "facts."

10:52 "What percent of players are cheating?" = 10-20%

Maybe I can believe that the cheating scourge is much larger than I previously assumed. I don't play competitive games too often, so I rarely notice.

Also: many games with SBMM will retain cheaters and simply place them in "bad sport" lobbies with other cheaters. I can see how the problem will surface differently with this game.

Anyways, I actually liked that video. Good share. Will see if the Waldo name pops-up as a savior in the future.

Basically Homeless estimated 30%, the devs agree with him.

He also mention's Goat's cheating in Tarkov to find out about cheaters.
You see, you don't play competitive games that often.
If you ever have the time, download a cheat and use it only to find out how many people are cheating.

I kid you not, it's not 30%. It's way over 60% in some FPS games, and never below 30%.
Battlefield titles in particular have always above 50% of cheaters.
The problem is, people play the game, they don't launch it with the sole intention of finding cheaters. There are people who use cheats just to show the immense amount of cheaters that exist. There are tons of videos on Youtube. I recommend Goat's for Tarkov, but there are many others for other games.
Be warned though, once you watch them, you'll never want to play competitive games again. Goat in particular says it ruined Tarkov and FPS games in general for him.

Vaguely certain I heard there was a recent f2p that decided to close their servers because of the sheer amount of cheating going on. It's a bit of a pandemic in some games no doubt.

[Rager]

It does not matter if this game has cheaters or not.


What matters it that other FPS have tons of them, and it ruined the game. And if they do, this one will also. Even if you never seen it or not.


It being true or not does not matter. What matters is cheating has a ripple effect across all FPS games, and unless we have some serious anti cheat. We are always going to feel like hackers are around even if they are not.

[True Winger]

Автор сообщения: CtrlAltDelicious

Basically Homeless estimated 30%, the devs agree with him.

He also mention's Goat's cheating in Tarkov to find out about cheaters.
You see, you don't play competitive games that often.
If you ever have the time, download a cheat and use it only to find out how many people are cheating.

I kid you not, it's not 30%. It's way over 60% in some FPS games, and never below 30%.
Battlefield titles in particular have always above 50% of cheaters.
The problem is, people play the game, they don't launch it with the sole intention of finding cheaters. There are people who use cheats just to show the immense amount of cheaters that exist. There are tons of videos on Youtube. I recommend Goat's for Tarkov, but there are many others for other games.
Be warned though, once you watch them, you'll never want to play competitive games again. Goat in particular says it ruined Tarkov and FPS games in general for him.

Yeah, my little bro showed me the infamous Tarkov video. I didn't even believe him or the video for a long time!

But I'm also dogwater at competitive FPS games and mostly play Call of Duty if I do, where the SBMM will save me from having to witness a cheater.

Still don't know where the 30-50-60% figures are coming from. The video you suggested did not provide evidence to suggest that this is true across all games, as you made your claim to sound like.

But it did remind me that my experience != the experience of others, no matter how much I might assume they're whining. Haven't encountered cheaters in games since 2009 in PC MW2. That doesn't mean they don't exist in droves, just that I don't encounter them often.

That Tarkov video though... Funny how the Publisher behind that game stopped DMCA'ing videos criticizing it for being infested with cheaters pretty soon after that video came out...

[Soren]

Автор сообщения: Vilamo

Автор сообщения: CtrlAltDelicious

Look up the video called "Saving FPS Games - AI Anti-Cheat".

It's literally proven FACT that 1 out of every 3 players in an online FPS game is a cheater.

It's not speculation, it's not hearsay. It's literally PROVEN FACT.

At this point those that continue to deny have their heads so deep in the sand they might as well bury the rest of their bodies and be done with it.

Source to back up the claim of that high percentage?

The source is from a video about Tarkov cheating I believe. Small sample size, but it might still be accurate in representing the Tarkov community because everyone knows it as the place with too many cheaters.

The leap in spurious logic comes from saying Tarkov = all FPS communities.

[Rager]

Автор сообщения: Soren

Автор сообщения: Vilamo

Source to back up the claim of that high percentage?

The source is from a video about Tarkov cheating I believe. Small sample size, but it might still be accurate in representing the Tarkov community because everyone knows it as the place with too many cheaters.

The leap in spurious logic comes from saying Tarkov = all FPS communities.

Every fps has it. Tarkov justs was able to show the rest of the world just how bad it is.

[Soren]

Автор сообщения: Rager

Автор сообщения: Soren

The source is from a video about Tarkov cheating I believe. Small sample size, but it might still be accurate in representing the Tarkov community because everyone knows it as the place with too many cheaters.

The leap in spurious logic comes from saying Tarkov = all FPS communities.

Every fps has it. Tarkov justs was able to show the rest of the world just how bad it is.

No no no. This is like saying Black Ops 2 on the 360 (where you can't get a match without a cheater) is as bad as Overwatch or Paladins. Tarkov is much worse than most shooters on the market. Like the top dog of cheaters in a shooter.

[Rager]

Автор сообщения: Soren

Автор сообщения: Rager

Every fps has it. Tarkov justs was able to show the rest of the world just how bad it is.

No no no. This is like saying Black Ops 2 on the 360 (where you can't get a match without a cheater) is as bad as Overwatch or Paladins. Tarkov is much worse than most shooters on the market. Like the top dog of cheaters in a shooter.

Bro, are you for real?

The cycle Frontier is shutting down and admits cheaters was so bad, that the anti cheat they using could not keep up.


Warzone cheaters got really bad. Did you play it? At one point it sucks.
Heck even PUBG and The Hunt Showdown.


Every FPS game right now is full of cheaters. No ifs and or buts. Anti cheat tech is not keeping up, unless we go to extremes. That is just a fact.

Now lets hope AI anti cheat will do something, but right now. If you are consider good at a fps. Chances are you are also consider a cheater. That is not good for any game.

[FuzioN]

you notice it easy when they aimlock on you acciedently when you are in cover cross the map and they have a fight with somone else cross the map.

Just join spectator and its easy to see :D

There is atleast 1 on each side everygame.

Keep in mind its easy to die in this game, even for a good player that avarages around 50 kills 10 deaths.

a cheater dont run with 100- 0 or 100 - 5 they will run around somtimes with stats like 60 - 25

So stats wont even tell you if they are cheating or not :)

[Rager]

Here is the simple truth.

Even if this game does not have many cheaters. That does not matter at all. Unless we have some serious anti cheat protection. People are going to assume the worse. Because cheating is killing FPS games.

[Vilamo]

Автор сообщения: Rager

Here is the simple truth.

Even if this game does not have many cheaters. That does not matter at all. Unless we have some serious anti cheat protection. People are going to assume the worse. Because cheating is killing FPS games.

Good, I'm am tired of companies trying to milk the users with microtransactions and season passes as they artificially extend the life. Let the games die.

[NiamhNyx]

I actually ran in to a couple yesterday. One dude claimed he tracked me by the glint of my IRON SIGHT famas..... let that sink in.
The other was a sniper who walked in to a building facing away from me, I right clicked to scope in and he did a 1 frame 180 head shot and claimed that he could hear me scope in.

[Vilamo]

Автор сообщения: NiamhNyx

I actually ran in to a couple yesterday. One dude claimed he tracked me by the glint of my IRON SIGHT famas..... let that sink in.
The other was a sniper who walked in to a building facing away from me, I right clicked to scope in and he did a 1 frame 180 head shot and claimed that he could hear me scope in.

You got trolled if you believe that and it's completely possible to do a head shot like that if you have a negative ping.