C4 against Vehicles is completely broken

[Nightrise]

Currently all people need to do to destroy a vehicle is zip past them at full sprint, toss 4 c4's as the run, and boom vehicle one shotted. This is an ancient and broken system. c4 blocks really shouldn't do that much against an armored vehicle since they're not shaped charges, they should take TIME to place, and actually be LESS useful than the dedicated anti-vehicle weapons in the game. It really needs to be adjusted appropriately. If not just rename it YEET Bombs and call it a day.

[Orso]

Sounds like a skill issue that you're letting people get that close to you in the first place.

[Vamilad]

For balancing yes.

Counter point, mmmmmmmmmmH funny blocks

[Nightrise]

Originally posted by Orso:

Sounds like a skill issue that you're letting people get that close to you in the first place.

Not really. The accuracy of the vehicles are really poor--this is a gameplay decision, probably to keep everything totally frenzied. If you do that you have to balance the other issues. That's not a skill issue. I mean, sure if you want make it more "realistic" and have the vehicles shooting cannons with several kilometer range and still able to shoot through a normal window every time at 2+ km... sure. Plus the multiple MGs on most vehicles to cover that very problem. That solves the issue for sure. If not, you have to balance all the game weapons.

[gza]

Vehicle usage should have a high turnover. It should give more players the opportunity to use them. Far too many people enjoy camping in their armoured tanks. I will always focus you with my C4. :)

[Prowl]

Some drivers just charge in regardless of force ratios or adjacency dangers like foliage or buildings and die very swift deaths. Good drivers use their range and infantry support to their advantage. Only a very stealthy and patient player is going to C4 you then.

[Vamilad]

Originally posted by gza:

Vehicle usage should have a high turnover. It should give more players the opportunity to use them. Far too many people enjoy camping in their armoured tanks. I will always focus you with my C4. :)

Best way to address this would be to limit vehicle repair in some fashion so you can't infinitely replenish at base.

Anti-vehicle mines AFAIK will one shot tanks, if they don't they should. That would retain the C4 funny block but make it slightly more skillful as you need to place it in the path of the vehicle rather than running up on its side.

[Kamakura]

I think the issue is that players get 6 C4. Drop that down to 1 or 2 per player, that way a single person can't wipe out a tank alone, especially with player count being so wildly high. Requires more squad/team coordination to take out vehicles.

[AshaMarie]

There's almost always a c4 user hiding in a building or bush that tanks usually drive by. Even if you are always moving, you got blind spots and the C4 users know it. They also know there's always only 1-3 tank spawns or sometimes none in main base on conquest and tanks are very loud so the c4 users will often predict your path and ambush you. I think it should take more c4 to kill the tank or drop it down to 2 or 3 or do both. Fact that only a few ppl on each team ever gets to drive a tank per match, you will be lucky person even knows how to drive one in first place.

[forty]

the strength of c4 is fine, they are just deployed too quickly; they should also be carrying one or two less than whats needed to off a tank at full hp. smoking a tank shouldn't be something one infantry soldier can do in two seconds without any support.

[forty]

Originally posted by Kamakura:

I think the issue is that players get 6 C4. Drop that down to 1 or 2 per player, that way a single person can't wipe out a tank alone, especially with player count being so wildly high. Requires more squad/team coordination to take out vehicles.

that'd do

[Kamakura]

Originally posted by RealPopeFrancis:

Originally posted by Kamakura:

I think the issue is that players get 6 C4. Drop that down to 1 or 2 per player, that way a single person can't wipe out a tank alone, especially with player count being so wildly high. Requires more squad/team coordination to take out vehicles.

that'd do

I feel like dropping the amount of explosives people can carry outright would be a good thing for the game in general. Support gets like 4 grenades, cut that down to 2 or 3, I know RPG's get a decent amount upon spawn, so probably drop that in half, same probably goes for mines and claymores, though I forget how many you spawn with.

With the games high player count, this game makes the Battlefield explosive spam seem quaint in comparison lol

[Gamesick]

you never played battlefield have you?

[AshaMarie]

Originally posted by RealPopeFrancis:

the strength of c4 is fine, they are just deployed too quickly; they should also be carrying one or two less than whats needed to off a tank at full hp. smoking a tank shouldn't be something one infantry soldier can do in two seconds without any support.

Yea, maybe if they were deployed slower instead of reducing their damage or loadout count, but I really don't know. C4 always been a problem for vehicle lovers in these kind of games. Most of my deaths when I am tank driver has been all from c4 alone. You really need a full tank crew and the non-gunner to actively scan around for c4 bombers, but too bad his spotting is much more difficult on night battles. Also, suicide c4 squad can do some serious damage too.

[crzy_aspy_kid]

Originally posted by Gamesick:

you never played battlefield have you?

yes and it was a problem there as well no coordination just spastics running around with snipers and c4 a one man army against everything ruined it bf is ♥♥♥♥ now days you shouldn't be able to wipe out heavily Armored vehicles that easy and most explosive barely damage tanks you can immobilize sure but not destroy its why heat rounds arent as common for taking out tanks anymore you gotta pierce the armor

[32Alpha]

I don't even think it takes four C4s.