please limit the amount of snipers

[bigd]

They plaque the battlefield. gun play becomes less fun when every spot you hide behind or travel to, you get sniped. Then when you peak your head from behind a building or over a hill top, you see nothing but glares from snipers filling the horizon. Not just that, but when some of them are using aimbot and takes out 2 squads with a few secs from their safezone.

Talking about safezones, some of them likes to hide in their faction safezone and pick people off. We can't get to them on foot since we cant travel into their safezone. Lets talk about snipers+aimbot+wall hack where they can shoot through walls. No way we're in prone position in a tall building away from the windows and still get snipe.

Limit the amount of snipers on a map or allow a mode where snipers are not allowed. a lot of my deaths are by snipers. I also liked how a long list appeared on my screen of people being banned. Then all the sudden, there are less snipers on the map lol hahahaha.

[Onno]

9 out of 10 times, the side with the most snipers loses. I think that the problem will go away if winning as a team is made more rewarding. There will be peer pressure not to have too many snipers.

I'm not necessarily for artificially limiting the numbers of any class. (for leaders it is a bit different, as there can be only one per squad anyhow)

[Buntkreuz]

I mean, im no fan either on some maps, but lets be frank, i dont see a lot of them anyway.
The current overused class is clearly the medic.
Whenever i check my squads class distribution or look at the scoreboard, its basically 80% of them using Medic.
My last match had 5 Medics out of 8 players in the Squad. One being me with Assault or Engineer, one Sniper.
I know thats just me saying that, not representative and all, but if we are honest, there are 3 classes used right now.
Medic, Sniper and Assault.
I would say that Assault and Sniper share their place, but Medic is clearly No1.

In my opinion the classes arent well balanced and have no real use or point to be there. LIke, why is there even a Support class anyway or a Leader Class?
In BFBC any Recon could place a spawnbeacon and that worked.

Sure there are outliers, where you somehow have a Squad of 7 Snipers for some reason.
Its map dependent.

[GoldenSnowflake]

More points for winning the game please.

[Terminator670]

They should make the roles of classes more relevant to what they are.
1. Engineers should be able to build bigger walls and place turrets.
2. Snipers should place spawn beacons and have a better spotting mechanic.
3. Assaults should have some form of anti-vehicle/ anti-building explosive.
4. Supports should get some kind of mortar that they can fire at range.
5. As for the last one I have no idea, never played it bc I couldn’t.

[Buntkreuz]

^not liking a mortar and Assault could simply become more resilient or faster (better armor?), but overall thats what should happen.
The classes are badly designed right now and somehow most are allowed 90% of the weapons but then you have like 2 completely locked out of them.
Like what the hell is the lacking Support weapon roster going on?

[Matt]

More snipers

[Beefclover]

sure, but let's nerf vectors first and see how that balances everything out

[drastikk]

I initially was pleased at how few snipers there were compared to say Battlefield, but now as we've reached August snipers are just a problem. It feels like Battlefield all over again; that's why I loved this game, because it wasn't BF. Half the players in this 256 player match is snipers. That's 127 snipers. Say "skill issue" and "l2 get cover" all you want, you can't "get cover" in a wide open map with 127 snipers.

For god's sake, please incentivize PTFO and reward wins. It can be done without making it toxic. I killed 2 flag carriers in CTF last night in 5 minutes and I got nothing for it except for the usual points from 2 kills. Meanwhile snipers earned that in 10 seconds. It felt so bad. I know it's early but the XP/rewards/points system really needs a further look.

With a game with so much grind, there is nothing but reward in spam-healing point C which is a no man's land with no real tactical advantage but back-capping D and protecting it yields less points and XP than 10 seconds worth of spamming C.

I am really worried about the future of the game at this rate but I am hoping the devs in their infinite wisdom know what they're doing.

[BlackholeSun]

having more snipers is the natural response to so many people spamming the run and gun playstyle because it naturally counters it, if you want to see less snipers start countering them by bringing Brs and Ars they are only beating you because you are using smgs lol

[Ronald]

Snipers as they currently stand are already so much more inferior to the typical AR or SMG - you'll never see one in the top 10, or probably even the top 50, of a 254p server leaderboard (unless they just switched to it). No matter how much you limit their amount or how ineffective you make their guns, you'll still be annoyed the same when one kills you out of nowhere.

My suggestion is don't brainlessly follow pushes and don't stop moving until you know for a fact no one can get you from anywhere.

[Agent Krasnov]

Most snipers in this game absolutely suck. It's not about how many snipers you have on your team, it's the quality of the snipers on your team. One quality sniper is better than thirty bad or even meh snipers. You're not dying because of the quantity of snipers, you're dying because of the quality of snipers. All it takes is one good sniper, and you'll find yourself and your entire squad six feet under.

Limiting snipers won't fix this issue. In fact, I don't think this issue can be fixed unless snipers become utterly useless, via removing the ability to one-shot.

Either this game has snipers that require skill, or it has snipers that are pointless.

People don't realize, sniping is incredibly hard. Even for players who are sniper "mains."

[bigd]

Originally posted by Hawk322:

Most snipers in this game absolutely suck. It's not about how many snipers you have on your team, it's the quality of the snipers on your team. One quality sniper is better than thirty bad or even meh snipers. You're not dying because of the quantity of snipers, you're dying because of the quality of snipers. All it takes is one good sniper, and you'll find yourself and your entire squad six feet under.

Limiting snipers won't fix this issue. In fact, I don't think this issue can be fixed unless snipers become utterly useless, via removing the ability to one-shot.

Either this game has snipers that require skill, or it has snipers that are pointless.

People don't realize, sniping is incredibly hard. Even for players who are sniper "mains."

These snipers be getting direct headshot hits from long distance. Even while in the city, they for some reason still able to snipe you between cracks as you're running and jumping. from cover to cover. another problem is that they're like laser beams. No bullet drop nor adjusting angle. You just aim at the head at long distance and you get a direct hit. You don't have to aim slightly above due to no bullet drop after a certain travel distance.

[Agent Krasnov]

Originally posted by bigd:

Originally posted by Hawk322:

Most snipers in this game absolutely suck. It's not about how many snipers you have on your team, it's the quality of the snipers on your team. One quality sniper is better than thirty bad or even meh snipers. You're not dying because of the quantity of snipers, you're dying because of the quality of snipers. All it takes is one good sniper, and you'll find yourself and your entire squad six feet under.

Limiting snipers won't fix this issue. In fact, I don't think this issue can be fixed unless snipers become utterly useless, via removing the ability to one-shot.

Either this game has snipers that require skill, or it has snipers that are pointless.

People don't realize, sniping is incredibly hard. Even for players who are sniper "mains."

These snipers be getting direct headshot hits from long distance. Even while in the city, they for some reason still able to snipe you between cracks as you're running and jumping. from cover to cover. another problem is that they're like laser beams. No bullet drop nor adjusting angle. You just aim at the head at long distance and you get a direct hit. You don't have to aim slightly above due to no bullet drop after a certain travel distance.

My friend, range-finding exist. As well, this game has a 900 meter sweet spot (any shot that hits over 900 meters WILL KILL)

As for between the cracks, not sure. Running and jumping, not likely to hit, but, some people will just take the shot. Others no-life this game, or have insane FPS so it's easy.

However, limiting the amount of snipers does nothing to effect the quality of a sniper.

[Hashley Hashbrowns]

Originally posted by Hawk322:

Originally posted by bigd:

These snipers be getting direct headshot hits from long distance. Even while in the city, they for some reason still able to snipe you between cracks as you're running and jumping. from cover to cover. another problem is that they're like laser beams. No bullet drop nor adjusting angle. You just aim at the head at long distance and you get a direct hit. You don't have to aim slightly above due to no bullet drop after a certain travel distance.

My friend, range-finding exist. As well, this game has a 900 meter sweet spot (any shot that hits over 900 meters WILL KILL)

As for between the cracks, not sure. Running and jumping, not likely to hit, but, some people will just take the shot. Others no-life this game, or have insane FPS so it's easy.

However, limiting the amount of snipers does nothing to effect the quality of a sniper.

I've gotten way more kills as a sniper because sniping in this game looks easier

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Exterminate sniper apes