This or BAR?

[Golgamor]

I just started playing Beyond all Reason last week and I am hooked however I have never seen this game and it looks just like BAR. Which one is better? I come from starcraft 2

[Medicus]

It is like asking "eating ice cream" or go and blow some stuff up :-) Check some videos, they are different games.

[Etho]

Originally posted by Golgamor:

I just started playing Beyond all Reason last week and I am hooked however I have never seen this game and it looks just like BAR. Which one is better? I come from starcraft 2

This game is not an RTS. If you are looking something similar to SC2, BAR is your best bet, although both the scale and the speed is very different.

Mechabellum is more akin to turn based strategy games. You see combat in real time but your decisions are all made in turn based rounds.

[Evo]

Mechabellum is a desert strike on stéroïds
BAR is a RTS
Both have their appeals

[Commander Tom]

Both are great games.

[Sol4rSky]

Bar is nothing like this except for the "robots".

[BunnyBunny]

Bar is good but I don't think they have a auto queue ladder system yet. or I didn't find a simple way to accede it.

Bar has a lot of variety of gameplay 1vs1 is totally played differently than 8v8. You also have turbo map with a lot of resource on the map.

Sometimes BAR feels like a real time tug of war type of game.

Play BAR if you want to sweat for your victory. mechabellum is more relax.

[Android Poetry]

BAR is awesome, this game is also awesome. BAR hurts my hands due to the APM required, I got tendonitis, this game is great for me.

[Etho]

Originally posted by BunnyBunny:

Bar is good but I don't think they have a auto queue ladder system yet. or I didn't find a simple way to accede it.

Bar has a lot of variety of gameplay 1vs1 is totally played differently than 8v8. You also have turbo map with a lot of resource on the map.

Sometimes BAR feels like a real time tug of war type of game.

Play BAR if you want to sweat for your victory. mechabellum is more relax.

Neither BAR nor MB are Tug of War type games. BAR is a RTS. MB is basically a turn based strategy with turn resolution in real time. An example of Tug of War would be Direct Strike/ Desert Strike (a mod for SC2).

[rocketdrive]

Go play bar. I've seen slot machines in vegas with better game balance than this

[ArcadeVault]

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

Go play bar. I've seen slot machines in vegas with better game balance than this

Don't listen to BS like this. Every single unit in mechabellum were called OP by different people, which clearly indicates... they are balanced. Only Abyss needs some tweaks, the new unit.

[rocketdrive]

Originally posted by ArcadeVault:

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

Go play bar. I've seen slot machines in vegas with better game balance than this

Don't listen to BS like this. Every single unit in mechabellum were called OP by different people, which clearly indicates... they are balanced. Only Abyss needs some tweaks, the new unit.

I dont think gaslighting new players into thinking they are the only problem and the game is perfect isnt a very good case to make for playing this game over bar

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

Originally posted by ArcadeVault:

Don't listen to BS like this. Every single unit in mechabellum were called OP by different people, which clearly indicates... they are balanced. Only Abyss needs some tweaks, the new unit.

I dont think gaslighting new players into thinking they are the only problem and the game is perfect isnt a very good case to make for playing this game over bar

You say bar is better but you are playing Mechabellum now and every time I've seen you online you are playing Mechabellum.

I guess a good argument to play Mechabellum over bar is that even if you are a complete noob who doesn't understand the beauty of Mechabellum, even if you spam the forum with low effort threads and make yourself an enemy of the community, you will still not be able to stop playing it. It's just too good. And the entry level is so low even the village idiot can manage, but the skill-ceiling is high, there is much to master.

But more than anything they are two different games, rts gives great rewards for speed/dexterity, this is pure wisdom/intelligence.

[rocketdrive]

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

I dont think gaslighting new players into thinking they are the only problem and the game is perfect isnt a very good case to make for playing this game over bar

You say bar is better but you are playing Mechabellum now and every time I've seen you online you are playing Mechabellum.

I guess a good argument to play Mechabellum over bar is that even if you are a complete noob who doesn't understand the beauty of Mechabellum, even if you spam the forum with low effort threads and make yourself an enemy of the community, you will still not be able to stop playing it. It's just too good. And the entry level is so low even the village idiot can manage, but the skill-ceiling is high, there is much to master.

But more than anything they are two different games, rts gives great rewards for speed/dexterity, this is pure wisdom/intelligence.

why is it so confusing that I complain about a game because I want it to be better? I will never understand that about this community

why do none of you want this game to do well but then dig in trenches and build forts as SOON as ANYONE says anything bad about the game or merely asks to learn. None of you can go a day without dogging on new players and gaslighting them about the current balance state

I'd rather people play bar over this since the rest of you would rather have another noob to crush than do ANYTHING positive

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

You say bar is better but you are playing Mechabellum now and every time I've seen you online you are playing Mechabellum.

I guess a good argument to play Mechabellum over bar is that even if you are a complete noob who doesn't understand the beauty of Mechabellum, even if you spam the forum with low effort threads and make yourself an enemy of the community, you will still not be able to stop playing it. It's just too good. And the entry level is so low even the village idiot can manage, but the skill-ceiling is high, there is much to master.

But more than anything they are two different games, rts gives great rewards for speed/dexterity, this is pure wisdom/intelligence.

why is it so confusing that I complain about a game because I want it to be better? I will never understand that about this community

It's because your complaints aren't issues with the game, they are skill issues. You aren't entitled to our help when you complain, but we could be nice and help you out if you'd ask.

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

why do none of you want this game to do well but then dig in trenches and build forts as SOON as ANYONE says anything bad about the game or merely asks to learn. None of you can go a day without dogging on new players and gaslighting them about the current balance state

You don't ask to learn, you present wrongful opinion as fact, you spam low effort posts, you don't listen to the people giving you advice despite all of that and now you are trying to scare away new players.

Originally posted by rocketdrive:

I'd rather people play bar over this since the rest of you would rather have another noob to crush than do ANYTHING positive

Lol you say this while you are still ingame. And no, I would not want more noobs I want actual competition and people who can give useful insights/feedback and contribute positively to the community.

[BunnyBunny]

So if you are not number 1 you can't complain about the balance ?

MECHABELLUM GAMEPLAY IS FULL OF RNG. And the most abusers of this meta IS the top players. Everytime you nerf card drop and RNG you observe a players spike.

Comparing mechabellum to BAR is not even close.