Anyone NOT seen elite marksman in MMR 700+?

[jahill007]

As the title says, has anyone played a single game above 700 MR that doesn't involve elite marksman on Marksman? Seriously, since those are the units most likely to survive and level up, they easily get level 3+ and the upgrade is insane.

I've been watching for about 6 games so far and not a single one didn't involve that. Win or lose, it's always there.

[ntino]

not a thing at high mmr actually

[Druski]

Yes. Though it is often on the bar, it not often clicked. I would suggest: A) using more chaff units (crawlers/fangs/wasps) to deny them - try having them not arrive all at once, but staggered - and B) Stormcallers to counter them.

[HolgFromHell]

Yes. Cannot remember any opponent using it (beside FFA brawl).

[jahill007]

Originally posted by Druski:

Yes. Though it is often on the bar, it not often clicked. I would suggest: A) using more chaff units (crawlers/fangs/wasps) to deny them - try having them not arrive all at once, but staggered - and B) Stormcallers to counter them.

A) I just had 10 chaff units and 12 non-chaff round 6. He won the round with 3 chaff. Saying "get more chaff" isn't always the answer. Mine had 3 waves (although last wave was just 2 units).
B) Stormcallers are 30 more range and I do pick them up often. Enemies don't always get up to rank 6 marksman, but at that point it's matching range and any further gets nuts.

[Fadeway]

post a screenshot for more specific feedback, but there's something seriously wrong with your gameplay if you are losing with 10 chaff against 3

[Aestrea]

The only tech on marksmen that gets used often is anti-air, even range up is kind of rare in 1v1s

[Medicus]

Originally posted by jahill007:

As the title says, has anyone played a single game above 700 MR that doesn't involve elite marksman on Marksman? Seriously, since those are the units most likely to survive and level up, they easily get level 3+ and the upgrade is insane.

I've been watching for about 6 games so far and not a single one didn't involve that. Win or lose, it's always there.

Nobody plays it above 1700

[Crayonmuffins]

All the time. If I see more than 2-3 marksman I try to flood them with chaff so usually it isn't a problem but even if I don't I mostly see people trying to stormcaller me to death or vulcan/melting. in fact probably 4/5 games I play is either storms or vulcan/melt. Someone rushed me with steel balls and rhinos yesterday and it actually made me excited to play against something else lol.

[jahill007]

It's technically not the marksman that are a problem. It's really that range is king (which is common in games) and promotions are cheap (double damage for half the cost? yes please). I just beat an MMR 800 who was round 3 buying 3 marksman (and picked marksman specialist) since he figured his tarantula clear would be enough to keep up. Watching the replay he would borrow supply to get more units early to snowball.

If you can get ahead of it quick you can shut it down and his specialist pick gave away his plan. But, rank 4+ marksman can act as late game giant killers. Meanwhile, supply goes to other upgrades and more units instead. Just 1-2 early wins with marksman make them unstoppable.